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  Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser December 21, 2014 at 11:09pm

  No he's not govt I can say. But I do believe they poison our air food water. My dearest acute respects my opinioon I know even if he may not agree. Lol the horomones they inject into the food 12 ye old lil girls look 20 its crazy at least here I. The USA.
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  Acute Observer December 21, 2014 at 3:37pm

  @rsolor (copied from http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/profiles/blogs/the-purpose-behind-...)

  "i ask you to please give solid facts from doctors, scientist, engineers,etc. WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTS, REPORTS AND ETC."
  
  Documents on what? The non-existence of a non-identifyable phenomenon?
  I think there are as much documents on that as there are about how the moon is not made out of cheese.
  
  In short, if you postulate something, you will need to support it by something tangible. You can not demand that the world should prove the opposite because.. well.. Then all science would ever do is to investigate outrageously ridiculous postulates and you all would have been severaly pissed that your tax dollars to science would never produce anything useful.. We can't live like that. :)
  
  
  "THIS IS TO DEFEND YOURSELF AND YOUR BELIEFS"
  
  No, that's Your projection.
  I'm here to find the proof I need to be able to act against the spraying without producing bad karma. For that I need proof.
  One can not stop man from flying without having a solid reason first. I wouldn't want to get hammered by the same people I'm trying to save.
  
  
  "YOUR WORD IS WORTHLESS"
  
  Only to those who lack basic understanding of atmospheric conditions and pollution.

  
  "MAYBE IF YOU TASTE WHAT I HAVE GATHERED AS SMOG, I BET YOU WOULD DROP YOUR CHARADE"
  
  Are you kidding?
  Smog from where you live would be filled with pollution from traffic and industry. If you live in a densely populated area that smog also would probably contain thousands of different compounds, some harmful, some not.
  We're talking about things sprayed from airplanes here. Not pollution from land-based things.
  
  
  "i am still waiting for your answers, so all of us can see your mindset"
  
  My mindset is this: Prove to me that chemtrails are being sprayed and I promise you I'll make sure it stops before the end of next year.
  
  
  "for your opinions are not facts by a long shot."
  
  I take it you never finished college (or whatever the higher education systems in Bosnia are called).
  Thanks for covertly notfiying me of that. I'll add that to my map.
  
  
  "i will not go away to see you slander all of us here."
  
  It's You who are slandering the NA community, by perpetuating these pointless arguments instead of just doing the simple experiments that needs to be done to prove this beyond any doubts..

  If I had the money, I'd rent a LIDAR-scope and point it to the contrails of all airplanes that pass where I am, get a printed readout on every single one and see if there is anything more than just jet fuel emissions in those trails.
  (I wonder if I could start a "kickstart"-account to raise the money needed?)
  
  I would probably be needing camera equipment as well though, hooked up with a fiber cable with a real time stream directly to the internet so that everyone could watch the procedure while it's being done, so that none of you here could accuse me of tainting the results.
  In short, we're talking mucho dinero here if I am going to do this measurement. It would be so much easier and cheaper if you could just go to your observatory and see for yourself instead. Nothing proves a thing so well as the opportunity to experience it yourself.
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    Acute Observer > Acute Observer December 21, 2014 at 3:44pm

    Correction: I mistake you for HP sometimes. Your energies are like .. twin-flames.. ;)

    Your smog is not from Bosnia. It's from the US.. Doesn't really matter though, as it is still contaminated with regular pollution. :)
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      happy person > Acute Observer December 21, 2014 at 10:14pm

      Sorry, but you are the only one here who is contaminating everything.....

      Getting nervous? Things are not going in the direction you would like?

      Well, I am a good person, so I am sending you some love and light from Bosnia (we have that in abundance here as it is very, very beautiful country that survived despite all attacks from people that behave in the similar way as you)

      Have a nice dreams....if that is possible with your conscience 
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    rsolor > Acute Observer December 21, 2014 at 3:42pm

    @ A O

    DO YOUR HOMEWORK, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE EDUCATION TO MAKE YOUR OPINIONS VALID.

    IT COST MONEY MOST OF US DO NOT HAVE, TO FIND TIME AND RESOURCES AT OUR DISPOSAL, THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SCIENTIST GROUPS WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING, AND PROBALY ON A TIGHT COLLAR.
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  rsolor December 21, 2014 at 2:56pm

  a.o.

  please give us your solid facts not your word nor opinions which are in real review.

   only the scientist jounals, doctors jounals, engineers jounals and all the many schools of facts etc. you can draw your defense of your integrity as a human being among us all, with your so called sincere concerns for us all with these reports and documents to protect us from the lies of the BANKSTERS elites who rule the world, NOT THE PUPPETS CALLED GOV.

  i and many others are on our edge of our seats to hear your wisdom of facts, not opinions for those you tell us are not facts.

  i am using your standard of exchange without insluts you love to throw at us, so as to disrupt the post into a insluts of wit. to destroy this web site and the many who are alot more educated, and insightful than you.

  can you handle the truth, i don't know, are a abc agent, i am not sure, you seem not of a high i.q. to put it off i.m.h.o.
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    Acute Observer > rsolor December 21, 2014 at 3:42pm

    "please give us your solid facts not your word nor opinions which are in real review."
    
    But if you never went to school, how could you possibly understand my evidence?
    I have given you everything you need to prove chemtrails beyond any doubts.
    All you have to do is to use the tools.
    
    
    "only the scientist jounals, doctors jounals, engineers jounals and all the many schools of facts etc"
    
    Documents on what? The non-existence of a non-phenomenon?
    
    
    "you can draw your defense of your integrity as a human being among us all, with your so called sincere concerns for us all with these reports and documents to protect us from the lies of the BANKSTERS elites who rule the world, NOT THE PUPPETS CALLED GOV."
    
    The day I meet a conspiracy theorist that can talk about a subject without bringing Banks into the discussion, will be the day I'll go to the middle east and paint a cross on the Kaba. ;)
    
    
    "i and many others are on our edge of our seats to hear your wisdom of facts"
    
    So basically, you want me to be the teacher you never had since you ditched school. And you don't want to pay me for my time either, right? ;)
    
    
    "can you handle the truth, i don't know, are a abc agent, i am not sure, you seem not of a high i.q. to put it off i.m.h.o."
    
    What was that you said about trying to avoid insults as it would compromise the pleasantry of this site?
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  Ara December 20, 2014 at 10:52pm

  So this is just a conspiracy theory then? how about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange is this 'conspiracy theory too?

  But i would like to hear your point of view AO on this matter. It seem that you know what you are talking about and also about that our governments will never go to some extend to experiment on us?

  could be - the 'chemtrail' is just one of many other  experiments?
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    Acute Observer > Ara December 21, 2014 at 1:09pm

    "So this is just a conspiracy theory then?"
    
    Everything is a theory until proven beyond any doubt. That's why we learn the "THEORY of evolution" in school instead of the "facts of evolution" for instance.
    Even gravity is still just a theory according to scientific standards. So yes, Chemtrails are still a theory.

    Noone have yet done a measurement of the air around a jet (can be done with "laser" from the ground. Your local observatory can help you with that. The equipment you will be needing is named LIDAR) to prove that there are more things than just jet fuel emissions up there.
     
    
    "how about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange is this 'conspiracy theory too?"
    
    No, Agent Orange do exist and have been known since the Vitnam war, but got REALLY famous at the Seveso catastrophy.
    I don't know why you go off topic and pull that into this discussion though. Don't you have enough material to keep to ONE subject at a time? ;)
    In short, you can not pull other stories into a subject to proove the subject itself. The subject will have to be proved with the same subject so to speak.
    
    I mean, I could list all instances of govt trolling to instill fear and distrust in a population, and then use that to compare with Your posts, hence draw the conclusion that you're a payed govt agent.
    I won't.. But I could.
    And, I will if you continue to use Off Topic material as a tool to try to reinforce This topic. ;)
    
    
    "But i would like to hear your point of view AO on this matter."
    
    And I would like to post it, but it's hours of work since there a LOT of information I have to include. It'll take me a while to compile that.
    
    
    "and also about that our governments will never go to some extend to experiment on us?
    
    That happens from time to time, but not at the scale you propose. When govts do illegal experiments they usually do it in isolated spots far away from heavily populated areas.
    
    
    "could be - the 'chemtrail' is just one of many other  experiments?"
    
    No, because most people who claim chemtrails are real also claim they are being sprayed form passenger planes, and that is simply not possible from a logistical point of viiew. IF there were to be any spraying, there would have to be non-registrered planes that can fly alongside with the commercial air traffic but without being detected from either the ground nor the flight-radars.
    
    All. it would take to kill that entire operation would be a private citizen with a camera that had an air control tower-friend that could check out that particular plane.
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      Ara > Acute Observer December 21, 2014 at 6:32pm

      you know AO, i like your objective thinking, but on this one you put lots of words with zero explanation.

      I mean, I could list all instances of govt trolling to instill fear and distrust in a population, and then use that to compare with Your posts, hence draw the conclusion that you're a payed govt agent.
      I won't.. But I could.

      seriously ... ;) ... i would like to see you prove that i am a 'govt agent' ... now that's hearts ... ouch ... but hey thanks for this lovely response  ... who knew.