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"Now, when Princess Diana died, in 1997, I was one of the first Black people to suspect that Princess Diana had been murdered, and I will tell you why this thing happened, sir. "
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Zulu Shaman And Elder Credo Mutwa
A Rare, Astonishing Conversation with Rick Martin
(30th September 1999)
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Credo Vuzamazulu Mutwa
It has often been said that the Native Elders of any given tribe hold the keys to knowledge. This statement has never been more clearly confirmed than in the recent interview I had the great privilege to conduct with Zulu "Sanusi" (Shaman) Credo Mutwa, now nearing eighty years of age (in 1999).
I (Rick Martin) was able to establish contact with Dr. Johan Joubert, who graciously coordinated with Credo Mutwa, thus allowing this interview to take place by telephone, literally half-way around the world in South Africa.
I first heard about Credo Mutwa five years ago, only at that time it didn't seem possible to speak with him directly by telephone, as he lives in a somewhat remote area with no phone.
Through the wonder of the international telephone lines, on August 13 we had what turned out to be a 4-hour session!
And NO, we are not about to pare it down to "sound bite" size.
The words he has spoken, will appear completely and in full context, as is our usual policy - a matter of respect for the speaker as well as simply being good, honest journalism!
I would like to comment that Credo Mutwa, while not a man of formal education, was kind enough and conscientious enough to spell all of the Zulu or African words, proper names, etc. for this article.
Those of you who may be African scholars will find this level of accuracy more advantageous to your research than will the average reader, however such care taken by Credo is yet another facet of his honesty and precision.
If you feel that you have read some material lately that stretches your thinking and challenges some belief systems, this interview will take you one step beyond.
As always, Truth is stranger than fiction.
As well, Truth - or pieces of Truth revealed to any one of us - are part of a larger mosaic, and thus it is up to each of us to arrive at our own conclusions concerning the Truth that others have to share with us.
We are honored to have this opportunity to present Credo Mutwa's experiences and knowledge with you.
It is a most rare and much appreciated opportunity.
The astonishing information presented by Credo Mutwa is certainly thought provoking and far-reaching in both implications and scope.
Once you read this information you will more readily understand why there have been attempts to silence him.
Similarly, you will more deeply appreciate Credo's courage for coming forth and speaking truth, no matter the consequences to self.
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Credo Mutwa: The people of Rwanda, the Hutu people, as well as the Watusi people, state, and they are not the only people in Africa who state this, that their very oldest ancestors were a race of beings whom they called the Imanujela, which means "the Lords who have come".
And some tribes in West Africa, such as a Bambara people, also say the same thing. They say that they came from the sky, many, many generations ago, a race of highly advanced and fearsome creatures which looked like men, and they call them Zishwezi.
The word Zishwezi means the dival or the glidal-creatures that can glide down from the sky or glide through water.
Everybody, sir, has heard about the Dogon people in Western Africa who all say that they were given culture by the normal beings, but they are not - the Dogon people are but ONE of many, many peoples in Africa who claim that their tribe or their king were first founded by the supernatural race of creatures that came from the sky. Are you still with me, sir?
Martin: Oh yes, very much so. Please continue.
Credo Mutwa: Sir, I can go on and on, but let me bring you to my people, the Zulu people of South Africa.
Martin: Please.
Lot more of a story is here: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=267140
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I look forward to reading the rest of the interview.