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  Suiris February 1, 2016 at 1:01am

  Humanity struggles against their own kind, and yet they wish to interact with someone else.
  
  You won't find anything on them, that you can't find inside yourself already.
  
  Of course, you'll keep looking outside, won't you?
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  Roaring Lovely January 25, 2016 at 7:03pm

  I for one am comfortable with the idea that my life absolutely begun here, when I was 5 years old. I find otherwise to be counterintuitive.
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  Hellen January 25, 2016 at 4:13am

  Do we wish we show up?  Through out history they have always show up in space ships and through contactees. i notice many contactees written books,given work shops,meditation classes,channelings,meet ups in certain locations,have been on board space ships by astral projection,have been shot at by the military,have given mankind technology to build space ships and have rise humanity's children and animals...
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    Hellen > Hellen January 25, 2016 at 4:16am

    and if they want to show it would be without fear and detachment to materialism ..
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  Marique January 24, 2016 at 11:30pm

  Ok, very interesting information, and thank you for sharing this info Goldenmind.  I just have a question or two, mainly because I am an abductee, and I know that I was a part of the breeding program.  

  My question is this.  How does one know that there was a soul agreement to accept being abducted and having their body and right to freedom denied by being physically and mentally violated for the purposes of another race or species or entity? What proof, verifiable and 100 % proveable that an agreement was made to that effect?  Who came up with that bright idea, and what the motive to say that?  Sounds like a hell of a cop out to me and to thousands of abductees whose lives have been ruined by the experiences.  Is it something that was said online and people just blindly believe that and decided it sounded nice so they decided it was true?  Who came up with that concept or conception?  What PROOF is there that abductees agreed to being treated like a lab rat, taken against their will repeatedly, having their whole life disrupted and often totally destroyed. What proof is there that they agreed to having their families destroyed and ripped apart by forces beyond their control, and having embryos that have grown in their body for the first three months and then having  them forcefully taken away  never to be seen again.  How does one know that it was an agreement?  Sounds pretty slick to me, and sounds like there is an agenda to make something horrible and sinister seem like it is ok.  Kind of like when a parent tells a kid that the dentist or getting a shot  is not going to hurt..  I want to know. I want to understand.

   I am not trolling this post or your comment, I  just want to know what proof there is that we abductees are heroes and saviors and not just victims of a race, or even the government black ops who cares not for humans in any sense other than what they can get from humans for their own selfish purposes?  If there is proof that we chose this, I will change my attitude about my history of being abducted and harmed and abused.  Until there is proof then the whole premise is based on the say so of someone, or something that someone read and believed.  It is easy for people to say it is a wonderful thing being a lab rat to an alien species, but usually the people singing the praises of being abducted have never had to endure the horrible devastating ordeal.  There is far more evidence and testimony that abductees had no choice at all, and that we were sold out by other humans...The concept of the soul agreement stuff just does not fly with me at this point. Could be, but until it is proven to me, I still will continue to feel that I was a victim.

  Please give me a link to where the paragraphs proceeding "who are the hybrid children?" comes from.  It is from a reliable source?  I think having a link to work with is a good place for me to start.  I want to see if the source is a source that is noted for being truthful and reliable, or just one of the new agey type sites that think everything is wonderful with no basis whatsoever to be spouting stuff and saying it is true...

  One more thing, and I am not directing this at you, as I know you did not write the information, but I think it is pretty lame the way that the alleged Shalinayta/Ya'yl supposedly was making open contact with earth?  I mean I did not hear of an alien race by this name announcing, "hey we are here to make contact with earth, we are the Shalinayta...We are riding in our ship the Phoenix Lights and we are making contact.  To this day no one has proved exactly what the Phoenix lights were.  So if this was supposed to be a race making first contact with humans, they did a pretty shitty job at it, in my humble opinion.  Also I would like a link telling all about the Shalinaya/Ya'yl if you have one...never heard of them before this..but have heard of the Essassani.  No proof of their existence either but somehow it resonates with me in some ways.  

  I do believe there are genetic hybrid children, I am not disputing that in the least, I saw things with my own eyes that are burned into my mind and heart forever.  Just not sure if it is a good thing, because the abductors were so much less than human.  Or I should say different than human, that is better wording, sorry.  

  And yes Pet Rock, they do indeed abduct for our dna.  Abductees have some genetic characteristics that they desired to breed into their race.  That is why we were chosen I believe.  But being chosen was not something that we chose, and I get aggravated when it is said that we agreed to this, just do not know it...that is what sticks in my craw.

  I know that everyone will believe what they will and if anyone wants to believe that abductees chose to endure the devastation of abduction and I cannot change people who think it is all very nice and hunky dory and all.  But I did feel the need to speak up as one who has had the experience repeatedly.  I feel I have a duty to put out the other side of the story for consideration.  I feel it is my obligation to the other abductees whose lives have been affected by the experiences of being taken against their will.  
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    Feather Winger > Marique January 25, 2016 at 9:02am

    I always thought that accepting the idea that we agreed to this was to empower us and remove this limiting feeling of being a victim...  We agree to most of the things  in this life without fully understanding all the consequences ..marriage for example...
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      Marique > Feather Winger January 25, 2016 at 4:52pm

      I have to agree with you that accepting that we pre-choose our experiences does resonate a little with me and feeling acceptance of being "victimized" is probably more healthy than feeling like a victim all the time.  But that can be taken to an extreme as well. 

      I mean if one totally believes and embraces that all life is all by agreement it would certainly skew things..

      Like if I saw a child getting abused, battered, starved or otherwise harmed, should I just think, "oh well" this child chose this treatment and agreed to it, so I should turn a blind eye to it???? That is the point where my confusion sets in...I like your example of marriage, and I do agree about that but don't know why I believe that actually.  Although why I chose to be a victim of spousal abuse and agreed to be battered like a punching bag makes me think that in a past life I was not very bright at all to agree to the life I have led this trip around!  I agree if we did agree to be harmed and victimized a lot in life that we certainly would have maybe chosen differently if given the chance to see how much it sucks, lol.  This whole thing of soul agreement confuses the hell out of me.  Not saying it is not true, just finding all sorts of ramifications of the theory of pre-choosing life incarnations.  If it is true then there is no right or wrong, it is ok to hurt people, kill people and do all sorts of heinous stuff because the "victim" chose to be hurt?  That is where the whole thing breaks down for me.  Predestination eliminates all judgment of whether an action is a good action or a bad one, everything is acceptable because one chooses to experience something and agrees to it...That will always seem like a cop out to me.   
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        Feather Winger > Marique January 25, 2016 at 5:53pm

        Marique, I get where you are coming from with this and I agree we should not use this soul contract thing as a reason to lack compassion or do nothing.  The same way some people say ´´it´s their karma.´´  The last time someone told me ´´it´s your karma´´ I went over and kicked them really hard and told them ´´ ít´s your karma now for being insensitive.´´

        OK..let´s take another whack at this, for I don´t totally buy the way this soul contract thing is presented these days.  I guess when we agreed to be on this planet we agreed to a certain amount of suffering and trauma ´cause the life here is trauma, stress, war and poverty.  Why would we agree to this??  I guess we need to consider the deeper meaning of suffering and what is its result. It seems that a certain amount of suffering speeds up the evolution and the awakening process.  We are wounded in order to heal for healing is the path to enlightenment.  The way I see it is that I set my goal to become enlightened in this life and I allowed anything that would put me directly on that path and get me to my goal.  This is how I see it in my life for I don´t believe that I would have agreed to many of the things that have happened in my life.....but, it is true that they moved me forward in unexpected ways.

        Perhaps it has something to do with being wounded healers.. ..

        http://everydaygoddessart.com/?p=350

        

        The Healing Path of the Wounded Healer | Divine Feminine Way

        What is a Wounded Healer? If you are someone who is sensitive or very intuitive (clairaudient, clairessant or clairvoyant)*, from a family history of
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          Marique > Feather Winger January 25, 2016 at 7:03pm

          Awesome link Feather...really got a lot of insight from that!  I like what you have said, and also delighted at the thing you said about karma!  Love it!  I also agree that a lot of what I went through taught me things that I could have never learned were it not for those awful experiences. After I posted my comments I sat back and thought about what I gained from the situations that were horrendous in my life, and those experiences, though painful, taught me to love and respect myself, taught me compassion for my enemies even my horrible ex too), taught me about the consequences of hurting others by our actions, taught me a lot.  As you said, after contemplating what you shared I can see that all my circumstances in my life did move me forward.  I feel so much more confident that I am on the right track. I also learned that I am survivor, made me feel that there is not much I cannot survive if faced with it.  That is a good feeling.  So although I will never totally understand the soul agreement thing, I will just keep muddling on, and surviving and learning as much as I can. 
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            Feather Winger > Marique January 26, 2016 at 11:47am

            Marique,  I agree that suffering gives one depth and a deeper understanding of ourselves and others.  I don´t think it is possible to totally understand how causes and conditions come together in the world for there are so many different factors happening at once....contracts, karma, soul mates, guides, past lives, destiny, free will, law of attraction, duality, etc.

            As for having  proof for the things I believe, I have another approach.  I have often said to myself that I am willing to believe something that is WRONG temporarily, if it leads me closer to the ultimate truth.  Might sound like a funny way of thinking , but we believe many wrong things every day and then later discard them.  We read an article or watch a youtube vid or watch TV and we believe this....then later when we find new info we kick out all the old stuff from our thinking.  (or we should kick this out, some people dont and they have layer upon layer of belief systems that contradict...so they really dont know what they believe)

             my definition  of ultimate truth is simple...it is oneness and the Divine interconnection of all things.  It is that all things are of the same essence beyond name and form.  All the beautiful and amazing diversity is simply a dance of one divine essence. The feeling that goes with this is one of being totally part of the nature, of the human race, of the star races, of the universe.  A feeling of totally being oneself...a feeling of being totally complete, fully loved and independent yet integrated into the universe.. This is often described as a feeling of ´´lack of separation.´´ 

            Let me give you an example of believing something wrong in order to get closer to the truth. I once read that we are all part reptillion...so I said, OK..I will try that and see what happens.  The first thing I noticed is that it released all my sub-conscious fear of lizzies and any prejudice I might have had against them.  So, it removed fear and moved my thinking closer to feeling the divine inter-connectedness.  If I find out this is wrong, then I can kick it out... I don´t need it any more anyhow for it has served its purpose, the fear is gone..

              Just saying that this is how I decide what to believe....I try it on and see where it takes me.    I find the ideas of Matt Khan to be very revolutionary and exciting. ...certainly helpful.  He says to see that ´´everything happens for our highest good´´  and to ´´love what arises´´  whatever that is.  Sounds a bit fluffy and even against logic...but it has amazing results.  I don´t even remember what else he said, just these two phrases and that is enough. They flipped my way of thinking around 180° with ease and grace.