Ascension and The Agape Feast

I wonder if there will be much of this in the new golden age:

http://www.goldenrule.name/Orgy_Epiphanius-Phibionites.htm

The Eucharist or Lords supper is not what quite what you would think. As Paul says in 1 cor 20, if anyone is hungry let him eat at home, or would you disgrace the church? He wasn't referring to normal food, but to the agape feast. If you follow the links you'll see page after page of church councils rules that prohibit priests from doing this in church, it was that big an issue.

In Luke 20:27-38 and Mark 12:18-27 Jesus says "Those counted worthy to inherit that age and the resurrection of the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels."

When the world ascends to 4D and we no longer die, according to Tolec, and reproduce in a different manner, because sex will not bring children, I wonder if there will be more of the above. IF Tolec is right about any of this.

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  • Studying in the page you posted above remindes me of the incredible material which had been published within the last 50 years om the topic. Anders Nygren´s book Eros and Agape is only one attempt to catch the subject of eros and agape, and he did a fine job in a systematic way, although Nygren was clearly emphasizing agape as a more harmless but comprehensive form of love. I once was mentoring a student on the same subject, and he literally admired Nygren and went into the trap many theologians went by doing the opposite many gnostical groups in the first centuries did - he did spiritualize eros love, and I wrote under his thesis some sentences on the holy shit of spiritualized eros while hating the dick and loving the Lord...

    Anyway, you really picked a subject which caused much confusion and trouble over the time, and it hasn`t come to an end yet. But you are exactly right, it is a subject which needs consideration, and we could discuss about it ad infinitum.

    And if I recall myself all the cases over the years I have observed - there is hardly a thing I have not seen. It is unbelievable what countless faces love is ready to reveal, including countless sexual views and performances. All in all I would really say: it`s a big mess, and I can imagine wishfull thinking among those who consider themselves having resposibility for the people in restricting the eros case, even by means of religious or spiritual connotations.

    You have truly seen the Jesus case - the poor guys writing a story about him called the gospels had no other way than letting him say as we read in Luke 20 and Mark 12. Funny, isn`t it?

    I have no answer neither. What I have experienced is that I have met some of the most advanced sexual perverts you can imagine, and most of them made a great impression on me, they appeared deeply human from their understanding and character. Some had given up their erotical games saying they had discovered a deep connection between sexual pleasures and free will of performing some styles of horny games. I know, this is very vague and not worth taking as a general statement, and I also know that many have no power listening to filthy sex and phantasy games, for it appear indeed very threatening to many people. But it obviously belongs to the realm of human possibilities and abilities, and how far someone is ready to go is mostly experienced by testing and not seldem exceeding frontiers and limits someone has.

    I`d like to leave it that way. Greetings from Germany!

    • Yeah. Following those links even further the dispute over the agape rirtuals, sanctioned by the early church, later led to an all out war against the Cathars and Gnostics and the destruction of the Gnostic scriptures. I would generally think of Rome as the bad guys, but even I must praise them for many centuries of a strong emphasis on Monogamy and the family unit. I can see why it had to go this way.

      All In all I think we've come a long way, and these things are very few nowadays. Those who do this in modern times tend to be Thelemites. Greetings from Phoenix!

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