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  Drekx Omega June 10, 2013 at 3:38pm

  That applies both ways, Feather.....I would suggest that you refrain from using the abbreviation; "WTF" in future, in response to my posts...as swearing is always going to place barriers between understanding and respect...

  I actually do not like falling out with you, as I do indeed recognise that we have much in common and little to seperate.....These issues can be resolved and I was pleased to see you speaking up for the people, which promoted my return to support your dialogue with Jancar...

  There are often occasions here, when we have to remind people of the need to be critical of unjust and tyrannical government policy.....You raised several good examples, which caused John Jancar to pause in his tracks and consider his own habitual support of many things officially promoted...I was glad that he did, at last, finally agree to distance his usual support of the admin, from US foreign policy wars, in Asia...

  People are waking up to the evils of Prism, too......And the mass media is at last covering this as I write these words... ;-).
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  Drekx Omega June 9, 2013 at 7:31pm

  OK Feather..and sorry we were at cross purposes, earlier today....I really want everybody to see beyond this matrix...
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    faith > Drekx Omega June 9, 2013 at 10:43pm

    Drekx you said,

    OK Feather, and sorry we were at cross purposes,earlier today . . I really want everybody to see beyond this matrix . . .

    But, Dear Brother, what actually happened, and happens repeatedly with your approach with others, is that you present your view, as though it is the only "truth", and that others are ignorant, and need, therefore, "eat crow".

    If you can not see the part that your scornful  manner plays in this ongoing pattern, then you will be doomed to playing the intimidater and wondering how you got to be  at "cross purposes", over and over . .

    To that end, I have a very helpful talk here,"How to share difficult information with friends", about how to present this material without alienating and judging others . .

    Have a look won't you, if you truly want everyone to get this, then you could refine your approach.

    Please be open to this suggestion, on how to actually have people hear you, instead of feeling attacked.

    This talk is really helpful . . .

    Peace
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      Drekx Omega > faith June 10, 2013 at 9:08am

      The cross-purposes I spoke of were only with FW...

      And I usually am very succinct and clear in my use of the English language, but recently decided to use some "americanisms" to place my views of divine discontent with the ongoing US administration charade...that several here seem to want to promote...They know who they are.

       

      The "eating crow" comment was a case of mimickry....I mimicked the exact wording that Obama devotee, John Jancar uses, to describe anyone that fails to agree with him on this contentious topic...I wanted to show the devotees a mirror, which I did...These are not words I usually employ, as most here will know...Also I don't normally swear, yet received such responses here....which are always counterproductive in comms...

       

      The scornful manner you speak of is one I often have to endure from the words of Jancar and Stick, who simply refuse to understand my alternative views...Thus an attempt to mirror back what they put out....A shocking strategy, but it means the massage of protest gets heard better than if I were meak and mild mannered in the lion's den of the threads...

       

      I have studied psychology, so am not in need of your social eductational video.....I will express my views here freely and sometimes may use language that is actually alien to me...Like "eating crow." Obviously this vulgar language is clearly understood by my detractors, as they use it too...

       

       
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      Stick > faith June 10, 2013 at 12:45am

      Amen... Lesson learned, Court adjourned! ;-) The root of the beyond predictable pattern here is that Drekxie has set a standard for respect on ACC that he rarely applies to himself... or perhaps more troubling, doesn't abide by because of his self appointed 'role' of 'Commander'. The ole: 'The rules don't apply to me' routine... 'I'm a Commander for Christs sake!' Even his latest attempt (if you can call it that) is written with the same holier than thou, snide dictates: "Well I would truly like it if Obama was not placed on a pedestal by his weenybopper fans... So pleeze let us stop the Obamarama love-in and lovey-dovey-lightworkery fraud, pretending that he is special, etc." Sarcasm is a form of violence Omego. Like a bull in a china shop, you need to stop 'acting' surprised when your fellows 'react' to the low grade debate you're so proud of fueling again and again. That you continue to storm out of the room pretending as if it's all below your elevated sense of self is just tired now. Approaching each thread as the misunderstood sole bearer of 'the truth' is only limiting your own experience... and more importantly, diminishing the valuable data that you bring to the mix. 'Lighten' up Drekx... you are not surrounded by enemies. As you well know, there are many within the ranks of the Sacred Secret Societies who may not always see eye to eye, but are in fact working for the same goal. As you also know... & I've said time & time again... real change will come from the bottom up, not the top down. The clay feet of the bronze statue are cracked... by the Good Works of countless Light Workers going back to the ancient world. In the meantime, the core issues keeping the masses in mental bondage transcend any 'one' personality. Humanity is still in the final throes of a Universal Tribulation. ~TemetNosce247
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      Dreamsicle > faith June 9, 2013 at 11:10pm

      That video would be excellent as it's own discussion. A lot of members and viewers would benefit substantially.
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    faith > Drekx Omega June 9, 2013 at 10:20pm
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  John Jancar June 9, 2013 at 7:05pm

  Well that's the definition of terrorism, the use of violence or intimidation, to make a political point. They do that to intimidate them to stop their environmentally destructive ways...that's different than setting a fire because you like seeing things burn. And it's not an extreme form of terrorism, but it's a higher level of crime than just plain arson. And some of these groups are real radical...like the ELF.

  But the real point was, if people didn't resort to these type of actions..."the system" wouldn't have anything to work with. Again, how can they label conspiracy folks, or new age folks, as terrorists....if they don't do radical things like that.

  I know alot of the terrorism label is meant to protect the powers that be, and make anyone challenging them as some type of monster. But...and this is hard to put in words....but if there's people trying to do radical things like that, they need to be stopped. And that's the level most people in "the system" operate at, trying to stop bad things like that from happening. They don't know the full scope of it....so you can't condemn them....and that's really the full point I was trying to make, people operate at the level they know....and you need to look at things, and people, individually, and see what their motivation is....instead of just lumping them all together into a collective, and judge them all the same. It's the same mindset that leads to racism...and it needs to end.
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    Drekx Omega > John Jancar June 9, 2013 at 8:03pm

    Jancar, for you to suggest that my motive is to condemn an entire country, the USA, is not a very kind nor moderate conclusion to make....

    I have always supported both the American People and the highly regarded united states constitution.....which I have often proudly named as a successor and completed political project, to England's 1689 Glorious Revolution and Bill of Rights, based on the plans of my own Master...the mahachohan.

    I'm not speaking of that real America's foreign policy....But the false fiat admiralty law amerika, that was fiscally structured in 1913, when the Fed was created....and consolidated in 1933, under Roosevelt...

    The foreign policy of empires is not what a Constitutional Republic pursues...only what the false and unjust amerika pursues....I would like to see the Republic returned to common law and peace around the world...

     
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    John Jancar > John Jancar June 9, 2013 at 7:47pm

    Look....I don't fully agree with the war on terror.....I think this seek and destroy policy isn't a wise one. And I won't comment on something I don't know all that much about, I don't know the details involved with that case....whether it was a mistake, or whether it was deliberate. If it was deliberate, than those involved need to be prosecuted.

    But my motivation here, isn't to condemn an entire country, like yours is. My motivation isn't to try and destroy, and bring down, something I don't like...like yours is. My motivation...is to defend...someone I feel is innocent and a good man. If I'm wrong in that assessment of him, fine...I'll be wrong. If you were right about it, well fine...you were right. But my motivation was purer than yours....and that's what's more important to me, not necessarily beliefs...or intellectual ideas and facts....but what's inside people, what drives them, what motivates them...my interest is more spiritual than intellectual. So that's something you should think about.