theres so much backwards bullshit on here its astounding to me that people can act in such a way and then go and call themselves loving individuals. if you all were you'd be living it on a daily basis and it would show up as it is, so either your crazy narsasists unaware of your true colors and feel completely justified, or just plain deceptive. its already come out on this site that there are masons and luciferians and such hanging round. not only that but those very same people are some of the most active members. esentialy theres a consistent thing on here that if you disagree, be prepared for extreme shunnage and snooty patooty comments designede to underhandedly [or boldly] degrade a person till they shutup. honestly its alot to go up against which is probably why theres so few people on here challenging this cult mindset. which if you think about it chalenging it is very important as many people awakening who google gfl or ashtar will find this site and join due to a need for like minds. i have a feeling most dont stay though cuz they see all that crazy mentality and eventualy leave do to just plain weirded-out-ness. when i joined back in late summer of 2009 i was an imature highschooler who wanted to know all sortsof stuff and was looking for someone to give me answers, on things. i had joined this site due to it being a first google result when searching ashtar or gfl [i forget which one]. i joined and pretty much spent all my time in the chat except for browsing through channelings that had been posted. back then i was a very gullible person due to my natural trusting of people's integrity, and i got strung along for a short while by the channelings, a bit after that though i realised it was just people making shit up and i stopped listening, and went on and off hanging out on this site, usualy coming back when the rest of the inernet became boring due to repetition. i never paid much attention to people's bs bck then cuz i hung out in the chat mainly, usualy saying anything between goofy nonsense to smart stuff. my mind is all over the place with what it thinks about and honestly forum posting doesnt hold my attention for too long, just until ive said what i need to say or im inspired by something. but esentialy after meeting april who really digs into things alot more then i do, i discovered with her ll the muck underneath the surface of this site, and when you poke the surface enough, you poke through and see all the icky glop underneath, and boy does it stink. its commonly known that masons are heavily involved with the nwo iluminotti agenda, as are the luciferians, because esentialy they hold lucifer [the devil] in high regard and in turn their morality is reversed as far as what they consider good/bad. like bad is good, and good is bad. also theyre into alice baily teachings and she was with lucis trust [school of luciferian teachings/practices] and she was openly rascist towards jews and even agreed with hitler, also these people have evaded saying "we hate hitler and hate everything he stands for" and instead will do some roundabout word dance to not admit they aprove of hitler, but at the same time not completely disaprove of hitler,so they kinda dance on the fence hoping no one makes them have to show their true aleigances, as that would show the true nature of this secret cult that parades on the surface as positive loveing white skinned human aliens who are painted up like pictures of saints wearing alien space uniforms. honestly shit like this totaly defeats the purpose of being spiritual, which is just connecting to your eternal spirit and divine will and learning to be kind and respect the world around you. thats it. yes theres a bunch of teachings in the world on how to do it. but to bring shit like holy space ships that were sent by god to save the people of earth during doomsday is just another beleif system that some will choose to beleive in if it apeals to their ego mindset, and from the people on here its evident these people got a whole lot of ego in them. one person named ravinder couldnt even give me a strait answer on what will happn to kittens and such because he beleives that anything that eats meat is evil and shall rot in hell when the pleiadian ufos arive that are esentialy cruise ship brocheurs designed to entice us to leave planet earth, and in my opion, be put into slavery and meals for the reptilians living somewhere else, who are banking on the humans who would rather give away their freedom for the promise of a better tomarow thats being handed to them on a silver platter [secretly containing sionide]. but yeah spirituality really isnt complicated, just connecting to the infinite and living a life devoted towards serving the highest good on a regular daily basis. which for many is extremely hard to acheive due to our natural inclination for self serving desires which serve us, which is caused by a lack of empathy, caring, and compassion for other's well being and happiness. i know i am guilty of such things like when i decide to drink the rest of the milk when others can put it to better use, or feeding my food adiction rather then just ignoring it and drinking water, or not cleaning my room when i know it would make my mom be happy and myself feel better, or not doing thinjgs i need to to get started in my life, so no no one is perfect, but to outrightly do shit that you know can hurt others in a big way and not care about its consequences, thats bad and serious. and i hate that kind of mindset with a passion. the reason im not on here often is frankly because dealing with it on a regaular basis drives me nutty, and even though i know its a noble cause i justv get tired of it. and it doesnt help with the fact i have a short attention span with things like this. but yeah, i dont care who responds and who doesnt, im just so pissy with the fact that all of you can be so awful and not even give a dam about it except getting your jollies off or whatever it is you gain from doing this shit. why people would even want to be a luciferian or a mason or be rascist is beyond me but evidently some people enjoy it, i guess people who enjoy hating and being angry all the time. but yeah, the people on here who fit this description, i hate you, i hate what you stabnd for and the fact you embrace it, i hate it all. and you should know that your little cult you have hurts people's personal awakening and spiritual wellbeing on a daily basis. so yeah thats all.

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  • John,

    I can thoroughly understand how you feel.

    When I first joined this site, i was appalled at the "fighting" and rigid structure of not "conforming" to others views or opinions.

    I was tempted to leave; but something inside me persuaded me not too.

    I am glad I didnt leave, because I realise that sometimes people speak out of ego; and its not personal, i choose to believe only what resonates and speaks to my heart.

    Your right some stuff is bullshit what people say and paints a bad picture for the rest!

    i choose to ignore it.

    That doesnt mean everyone has to agree. It just means, everyone is entitled to their free will and choices ...

    I say people, you should follow your own path and not the one others say you should follow,

    believe what resonates in your heart  because all our journeys are unique and specific for each of us....

    we are all special, 

    and there is much love in the universe for all of us!

  • Hehehehehe there own Social Standards, and how they have to maintain a Status line on here, with what should be talked about and what can't be talked about

    There allowed we aren't allowed until we join in on there Tea Groups that have been on here. 

    LoL will never watch anything that is related to HE Man again lol

    Bless the Nite

    April 

  • Can you post the link on here Jim, about the blog you had wrote about 

    Bless the Nite

    April 

    • here it is

      youll notice the words of many of our favorite friends whn reading this article ;)

      http://orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html

      • Eh, This is really really bad for kids that have Aspergers, because they depend on things like Punishment and Rewards. At least that was what I was told by another kid that has Aspergers, so this kind of behavior pattern is really bad for people that have Aspergers, they also get into a routine set way.

        Most of the members here on the site, don't believe in medication for treatments 

        I know, and if I can find that video again, the Ra Man had mentioned that people who have cancer should stop going to Kimo treatments because they were going to die earlier if they had kept on going to kimo treatments. 

        Yeah a lot of those things is what happens on here also

        Kind of scary when u think about it

        Bless the Nite

        April 

  • Just becarefull Hannah that although they are being nice to you on here, they could be saying a lot of gossip things in PM or in email with each other, just because they won't be mean to you right away doesn't mean that they aren't pulling shit, which was another hard lesson I had to learn from all of this as well. If they think you are dark and negative for having different views, then yeah they could be saying there stuff underneath the table and not to the front, which is why I don't email anyone on here, unless its important or something short even. Other then that though everything else is brought forward on here with facing it head on. 

    Just stay true to yourself and be who you are

    Bless the NIte

    • that just sounds like real life. person to person. i had a best friend once called Sarah or so i thought she was. she told everyone i was horrible and use to abuse are friendship. she went behind my back with my boyfriend. then turn the table and said to her friends who weren't part of our group of friends and didn't know me or the bf and said jo was her bf and i tried it on with him. then they attacked me. this was many years ago and i actually forgot about that. funny how something pops into ur mind when something is said.

      just shows you how not so nice humans can be but then when someone calls themselves a light worker, star seed, spiritual person. attack you for having a different view, accused you for words you have not said or words they have not read. (like the girl yesterday who said that's like brushing all humanity with the same brush after i said i've met good and bad ET's and the women who went on about me not believing in reptilians when frankly i said I've seen one but i need to see prof that these reptilians are being arrested not just some guy talking about what happened. but of course i'm just not as special as these people who can just feel it) i personal need to see and feel to know its real. these people are dangerously stupid. then they judge me that i'm full of fear becz i'm neg about their point of view (NOT TRUTH)... who can blame me if i did when supposedly ascended masters sent them here to save us? I'm gonna go and place a bet that the skeptics in the end will save us from the reptilians. pmsl ... ^_- <that's a smug blinking face btw.    

      and thank you April. i will try and always be true and if i ever come across not being. I've been took over by evil dark forces , call the ghost busters and the galactic federation of light. oh and called dominoes and order a pizza for them all... it might take some time to rescue me and i wouldn't want the guys going hurry lol ;) xXx         

    • yes all the "brightest lightworkers" here have private backwalls, what do they have to hide if they are so great?

  • In all honesty, there has been so much this year on this site here that has come forward with things as to where they are coming from, and yeah Hannah there have been a few on here that I have learned deep things from, and where stuff comes from as well, and even though they don't agree with with a certain few it is nice to know there are some that will be honest where things are coming from

    I can see though why it makes a person feel uncomfortable though being surrounded by certain groups that have pulled some shit along the way. See John came in on this site after me, and while John was on here I was talking with that Melissa on the phone, and he had already been through the mill some with the members on here.

    There are some that aren't bad, but over all a lot that are sort of stuffy with there views, and it usually doesn't come out until there is something that needs to be said, about how stuffy some of them are about things 

    Usually what will happen though on this site, at least since I have been on here in 08, is that the members will rotate and change there names some, and then come back again here and there, the thing that is the most important to keep in mind that a lot of them are recruiting members on here also, so it is easy not to see what is happening at first, because they will be real nice as long as you obey them, and not step out of line, holy shit though I have had members on here that would get all huffy puffy, just from saying a few things here and there, and it would be like are serious that is what you are upset about right now, and they never would get over it either, they would say that they do, but then they would usually go about and turn your name into a gossip party, if they have felt that you had stepped out of line with something that didn't suit u

    The lady that I had talked to on the phone Melissa, she one nite was shocked because she was on a different site, and she had some photo albums of her and her niece Bella, and she was real excited to show them to people. This was on a site called Universal Lounge site, where Breeze and Shadow had fled to after being on here for so long. One nite though in chat, Melissa had put the link up to her photo album page, and Shadow had a fit with her because she had given out the link to her page. She had asked the owner of the site if he had a problem with posting the link to her photo page, and he said nope go ahead, but Shadow doesn't want you putting links out in the chatroom, so she had to make a separate blog or something like that  

    These people though will get all bent out of shape just for things like that, and they will lie about you afterwards and say how horrible you are, and how you do this or that, but they think things like killing people, and robbing banks aren't considered high crimes in this country, and they will shrug there shoulders like it's no big deal at all, same as for selling drugs or anything like that 

  • I don't agree with every little detail you said but there's a hell lot i do . and thanks for for sharing. and what you said about April spot on. i like someone who can dig further into things and many seem to lack this skill. i believe you should never stop questioning. but these so call light workers think they find truth, then build a little fort around themselves, only letting others in who go along with them. and then the moment someone comes along with a different view they attack like a pack of dogs... but with really snobby up themselves words and they don't seem to even notice your own choice of words, then they twist them into looking like you've attacked them. and these guys are so brainwashed they don't even notice.

    they tell me i'm too negative for them and i should leave these so call sites like i have no right to be there I'm not spiritual enough, then they judge me that I'm full of fear...  these people are dangerous lunatic's under some force of controlment in my opinion just like an cult. its like they can't think for themselves even though they tell all their answers are coming from within but all i see them doing is stating other peoples worlds or from what is written somewhere off the net or in a channelling video. and its starting to get really scary now... we also need to remember this world is still so very corrupt and will only stop once these bad ones have been took care of. for ALL to see, feel and hear.

    i also wish to add not all i have met (light worker star seeds) have been quite like this. some have been rather quite understanding. and haven't believed me but they haven't neither disbelieved me. they have just shared their own feelings and experiences and gone away to think about it. which gives me little hope, we might still have a chance of making this a better world. the people on this site have been far the nicest to me so far. but that's just my experiences, but it could always change.        

    also what really gets on my tits is when these people leave love and light at the end of their message after attacking you. (this may have something to do with my own Karma becz i haven't been 100% innocent) But this one girl attacked me today and left love , light and diversity . i guess you've gotta laugh. but its not funny... it really isn't. 
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