DOUBT - I HAVE FEW QUESTIONS! - Spiritual Forum - Ashtar Command

Hello brothers and sisters. I had been studying about Ashtar Command and light beings from other planets. Sometimes i do feel good and peaceful with all the informations but sometimes i feel soo much doubt. If you stop and see the world that we are living, there's so much of pain, unhappiness, anger, sadness, sickness and lies. The Galactic Federation of light said that they can't just come here now to help us, they can't help us because of our free will. But wait a minute, the dark cabal came here and did whatever they want, they are doing everything they want, they are having success with their New World Order agenda with Obama. They had been slavering humanity for so many centuries against our free will, and now nobody can't help us because our free will? come on... why the good side always have to give an excuse for everything when the dark side is doing all the demonic plans with humanity? Millions of people is dying not just because they choose to die, but thet are dying because the Dark cabal is killing them. It's so easy to say "they are dying because they choose to die" come on, did we choose the repitilians to feed on us and slave us? i guess not.Sometimes i doubt on all the Ashtar things because of this. They keep saying good things but always the samething but we never see the results, we just see more bad things happening, things that comes from the Dark Cabal. Now i can see a lot of people waiting for ET Disclosure from out Government. It's unbeliveble that people already know the truths about our Government and now are hoping thay they will tell the truth. They will never tell the truth. They will create an agenda and tell more lies inside that agenda. Think, they have direct contacts with Grays, Repitilians that can turn human, and other races. what if all this UFO thing that is happening is not their agenda? They can tell us "ohh UFO really exist and they are going to help us" and then the grays and repitilians come as a savior, peaceful and love races haha with beautiful faces and bodies and a beautiful ship. And they are going to create a new government for us, give us new tech to help us and cure... and the humanity will be sooo happy haha come on. They can do this, and i think they are really doing this now. They can create a First Contact and lie more to us and continue to slave us. And the light beings won't save us because our free will? but the dark cabal can create all this and laugh.If this is a war against the repitilians, they have to come for us and really help us, don't care about free will, people are dying against their free will. Sometimes i can't see us free, because all the excuses from the light beings and always the same messages. I was searching the web and i found that they are saying the same thing over and over for about 10yrs.And one more thing, when people see an UFO, doesn't matter if it's white, blue, orange or whatever light, and they say that is GFL coming for us. Come on people, stop being fool. Our Govenment has a ship that can travel to the moon in minutes, and have lights and can be invisible. So now imagine the grays and repitilians that is far more advanced from us? they have ships that we can't imagine that exist. I don't want to cause a confusion but we have to think first before believing in everything we read. What if all this Ashtar things aren't from dark cabal agenda? who knows? well peace for everyone.

It has to do with the fact that you cant solve any problem with the same
consciousness that created it. If an outside civilization would come here
and force changes that would be the case....... The changes must come
from within ourself first, then in society as a whole in general and then finally
the cabal will lose totally. Just 5 minutes ago I read a report from Benjamin
Fullford, he stated that the cabal know well now that they will lose control
and are worried what will happen.....

June 10th / Benjamin Fulford

33rd degree freemason promises the illuminati will change for the better

A 33rd degree freemason visiting Japan as a representative of the Italian illuminati says the secret organization knows it will be losing power. They are very confused and worried about what is going to happen after they lose power, he says. One faction wants to blackmail the world with destructive weapons. Another faction wants to negotiate with people in the "profane" world (ie us unwashed masses). A third faction thinks it is end times and that we must wait for the Messiah.

My suggestion was that they stage a fake Armaggedon show so they can get all this apocalyptic stuff out of their system and the world can return to sanity. My belief is that future generations will conclude that the Messiah was the awakening of the global group mind via the internet.

In any case, I was invited to Italy to talk to the heads of the illuminati. These include people who claim to control the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths. It might be worth visiting to see if they are willing to appear before a truth commission as well as support a campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.

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Cleyton June 11, 2009 at 3:18pm

Just pay attention and you'll see...
Cleyton June 11, 2009 at 6:23am

well i hope that we are on the right way. =) if u can tell, what do u believe?
Cleyton June 10, 2009 at 11:45pm

one more thing... this whole thing turned to a money scam... all website that i go i find "buy this amulet to set u free; but this book and u know all the truth; buy this whatever and this will do this for u" all in the name of our brothers and sister from out of space. You can buy hundrands of book, all book will tell u the samething in diffrent ways. I heard people saying the Obama is working with Ahstar and others light beings... I can't see that, i can see Obama continuing what Bush was doing. They put a black guy with a angelic face to make u believe only because people were doubting about those white faces with blue eyes. But Obama's plans are the same of Bush.
Cleyton June 10, 2009 at 11:37pm

see another excuse haha how could we choose to live in ignorance if we didn't predicted the coming of the repitilians? as i know life on Lyra was perfect, peaceful and spiritual but the repitilans came and killed them. Did they choose this? they were already in spirituality, and had all the knowledge. How can they choose to die in the hands of repitilians if they were already following their spiritual path? i think the creator doesn't want us to be ignorant and be slave. How could we choose that if we could grow without this ignorant thing. The way u are saying is that God allowed us to live like this for centuries, and now he can't do anything because of our free will. come on...
Cleyton June 10, 2009 at 11:08pm

I know... but let's say 90% of the population care more about the money, and they are following the religions that the dark cabal created to slave humanity. They are not going to wake up if something very very big happen, and this thing needs to happen against the free will or whatever. GFO has to stop getting excuse and act if they really wants to help us. If they come like had been saying for years, and tell all the truth, set us free, and arrest the dark cabal live on TV, i guess everybody is going to wake up... but they let us in Dark cabal's hand, letting all this bad things to happen to us and then give an excuse that they can't come now because of our free will? who's going to wake up when they are suffering? who's going to wake up when they are afraid of loose their jobs or house? they are going always look for a solution on our Government, this will never stop. And the Dark Cabal is going to succeed their plans. Well i guess we don't have nothing, nobody is going to help us, just because our free will and our ignorances. ops, but who made us ignorant against our free will? =/ i don't understand.
Thomas June 10, 2009 at 11:07pm

It has to do with the fact that you cant solve any problem with the same
consciousness that created it. If an outside civilization would come here
and force changes that would be the case....... The changes must come
from within ourself first, then in society as a whole in general and then finally
the cabal will lose totally. Just 5 minutes ago I read a report from Benjamin
Fullford, he stated that the cabal know well now that they will lose control
and are worried what will happen.....

June 10th / Benjamin Fulford

33rd degree freemason promises the illuminati will change for the better

A 33rd degree freemason visiting Japan as a representative of the Italian illuminati says the secret organization knows it will be losing power. They are very confused and worried about what is going to happen after they lose power, he says. One faction wants to blackmail the world with destructive weapons. Another faction wants to negotiate with people in the "profane" world (ie us unwashed masses). A third faction thinks it is end times and that we must wait for the Messiah.

My suggestion was that they stage a fake Armaggedon show so they can get all this apocalyptic stuff out of their system and the world can return to sanity. My belief is that future generations will conclude that the Messiah was the awakening of the global group mind via the internet.

In any case, I was invited to Italy to talk to the heads of the illuminati. These include people who claim to control the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths. It might be worth visiting to see if they are willing to appear before a truth commission as well as support a campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.
Amelia June 10, 2009 at 10:54pm

I am annoyed that no one finds this discussion-worthy, while everyone is paying attention to the guy who keeps quipping about torture for attention. Lately, I have also had my own doubts, but of course also lots of hope-- but I can't deny that they've been telling us they were "just around the corner" for months now. They either need to put up or shut up.
Cleyton June 10, 2009 at 10:19pm

so... anyone?

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