Just wondering on other's opinions here on the 'freedom of choice' when it comes to someone euthanasing themselves if they are ill (like 14 years), house-bound to the point they can hardly socialise, have a strict diet (that also makes it challenging to socialise) but even eating the organic foods does nothing for them.
Say Jesus appears to this person in a dream, and shows them 'paradise'? This then obligates the person who once believed in 'free will choice' to now endure more - right to the end right? After all the belief that we have 'free will' even through prolonged illness, means we can opt out but the consequences could be to reincarnate again.
I believe that we reincarnate. And I like to think that we can reincarnate back into a 'healthy' body. But we are likely to run our race again. And who wants to go through all this again? I've learnt alot through suffering, for most of it (I suppose the emotional) - I have no regrets - as because of suffering, I became 'awakened'.
But I also believe that we are running a race, and the race is calling us to 'graduate' either 3d or at least our journey here, so that we can move onto higher levels of learning.
What do you think?
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If someone asks to be euthanized, they should be allowed to have that happen...end of story.
Yes Archangel you're right.
But that technology is kept 'hidden' from the public.
I agree Kat Came Back.
I'd never let my dog suffer if the time came when she was in too much pain or something.
We have free will for a good reason.
Well Imascending,
It's a gutsy choice that your relatives made. It's also one of love, where they consider they may have been too great a burden for other family members, if they were that sick.
And yes their choice deserves respect.
The "long and hard and painful way to cure" is a thing of the past.
The bag simply cannot hold that cat anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCt1Q3-W3M
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/humblemmsandcancer07jan12.shtml
http://www.keshefoundation.org/applications/medical
Here's a start... Have fun.
This is a personal issue for me. To keep somebody alive against their will is pure inhumane torture. I would not hesitate to pass away. I don't think death and dying is bad or wrong and I don't think it should be out of my control or forbidden from my ability and right to choose. I absolutely support and fully agree with a person's right to choose to end their human life, in the most humane way possible.
Yes agree TheOldestEternal One
Glad we are free thinkers on this forum, and that we can make a decision, should the time come if we need to.
When one gets over the programming of the medical community (and most have no idea they are being lied to, including the well meaning nurses and physicians that have some heart), then one can see that there are far greater ways to deal with both pathogen based conditions such as cancer, HIV, AIDS, Hep, and so on, and the mechanical conditions (I'm not referring to the effects of car accidents or physical trauma, although they too respond well to these things) such as degenerative disk disease (of which I was diagnosed with some time ago), and nerve/brain/organ damage (from rsi's, chemicals, poor diet, etc.) have amazing regenerative results from simply a change in attitude.
I mean no disrespect to any that find themselves in these situations, but rather, know that there is alternatives that have been hidden and buried for almost everything that the human finds affecting them from time to time. It does take some "letting go" of past programming and a willingness to explore and adjust views with an open mind.
What I am referring to by change in attitude is dropping the knee jerk reaction to what some term as "woo woo" or "esoteric mumbo jumbo". There is volumes of evidence from all over the world that this "woo woo" is very effective and very simple, cheap and available to ALL. There has also come to light recently some "chemical" intervention that has been shown by hundreds of thousands of folks to CURE previously incurable conditions.
So, as for euthanasia... If it is necessary, it is necessary... but are you sure that it is truly necessary? Are you sure that the medical community is correct in writing off these folks and leaving them to suffer and die?
I know better. I live it. I am not supposed to be able to walk, but I chop wood, tote water, play with my dog, ride my bike for miles and hike in the woods that are my home. I do this pretty much pain free from only a change in attitude. I cured my mental issues that this condition (chronic pain) causes by B vitamins and a purpose. I removed the parasites in my brain, digestive tract (which we ALL have) as well as the heavy metals I had accumulated through years of tool and die making (glorified machinist) with a simple protocol using chlorine dioxide (MMS).
The solution is there for those that seek. It is simple, safe, and the medical community hates it because it will render them basically useless, unless one springs a leak or breaks a bone.
In time, when our diet, air and water is cleansed of the poisons, our mental state becomes one of self reliance and responsibility and we can accept that there are far greater things available to us than what the for-profit medical establishment would have us believe, these issues that have sparked this discussion will fade from memory and be no more.
Yes John what you say makes alot of sense. It also does take alot of homework, as well as knowledge, self learning, self discipline.
I suppose for now, it's a chemical world. Hard to eat anything that hasn't been sprayed, even tho I do buy organic food but it's an effort to keep on top of.
I found doctors to be SO indifferent, treating patients with contempt almost, as if they don't have the time for them - or like they just have no ounce of empathy - or honesty. So you turn to naturpaths - and it's a minefield as you try not to waste too much money on 'alternative' therapies - or scams.
I'm so pleased to hear that you had cured yourself - and had the discipline to do it.
Suicide is a sin for the spirit soul goes neither to heaven or hell but floats about like a ghost.
One must not give up hope ..if in deep distress call upon Jesus to help you and if your prayer and intent is good you will be visited by his grace.
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