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  Luke Skywalker August 10, 2011 at 12:23am

  good point Jon.. and if we all acted from our Love, we would see Heaven more clearly manifested .. Love and Light to you. 
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  Vagelis4VP August 9, 2011 at 11:57pm

  ..ok... if i say, "in my view these are just certain behaviors that we adopt...", would it give u to understand that i havent learned anything of importance from money???

  ... money is only a medium of exchange, and personally i havent learned anything that holds any value from it... the only thing that i learned with money in the system, are ways to move as smoothly as i can in this primitive and corrupt system so that i can get along in it... and it wasnt money that did that to me.. it was my drive for to live a life which could fulfill my every day needs (and as we know, money is needed for that in our current system)...

  it would have been not necessarily at all to have to do actions for to bring money in my life, in the first place, if we were living in a sane world...

  ....but, if u think it gave u any lessons, good for you...

  ...ok..cool... if u say why not to barter "a sack of potatoes" for a plane ticket... i would say, why not "a can of beans" for a plane ticket... and i would go as far to say, why not "nothing at all" for a plane ticket...why to limit ourselves to NO-NO's???...think positive... ;)
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  Luke Skywalker August 9, 2011 at 11:26pm

  Here ... clearly not one of my hippy LnL LSD trips ...

  this is the current Chakra system..

  

  but its changing along with our DNA...

   

  
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  Luke Skywalker August 9, 2011 at 10:45pm

  Thank you Kelly :o) .. for some reason, this comment ended up here and not under your comment... I was just on way to say thank you for what you said about my parents in your other comment.. I AM very touched by you words.. you know Kelly, I really Love you so very deeply, my beautiful sister.. thank you for all you are.. :o)
  
  .. and yes.. I remember, I'll try to find that crop circle photo and paste it here.. and in that way, those who scorn Love and Light are getting an overdose of it .. haha.. I guess they're attracting it to themselves aswell.. hmmm... what is the world comming to?.. I know.. its comming to Love and Light ! ... ha ! :o)
  
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  Vagelis4VP August 9, 2011 at 4:49pm

  ..the quote was not "progress or the advance"... but "progress or the advance of wellbeing"...

  u say, "Products do get converted to money.  You create a product, you sell it to someone, now you have money - bingo!  Conversion happened..."

  .....lol...yes..ta-daa!!! tell that "magic trick" to a 5 year old kid... u may be able to impress him...

  ...all the lessons u say we get from money, "value something", "how to not or be greedy", "work with what we got", "share" etc, i dont deem them as life lessons...

  ..in my view these are just certain behaviors that we learn, in order to adapt the best we can in a environment driven by artificial scarcity.....and we can learn all these without money also... i dont need money to learn how to share with people...

  ...as for barter... maybe there are lessons in children's cartoons, but sadly life is not a children cartoon book... as i said before solve my problem of, how many sack of potatoes do i have to give for a ticket to China... and then maybe i will be able to pay more attention to barter method...

   
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  Vagelis4VP August 9, 2011 at 3:56pm

  @Jon C. Munson..well yes... but no...

  ..i was not talking about what lessons the money might have given us (if they had given us any at all)... but about how far they took us... that means the progress or the advance of wellbeing of our society here in 3D...

  and as i said, it was not money, that brought progress to people's lives... ..u said it too..it is only an exchange medium... yes, oil converted into products... but products do not be converted into money... they can only be purchased by money...

  ...science/technology/research/studying/experience/trial and error are few of the things that can "teach" us, in this life...not money.......money do not "teach" anything in humans apart from how to be consumers, and how to waste our lives, in order to obtain more...

  ...another point, on the transition... i dont believe we will return again to a complete barter system....it is not possible to do something like that in our current set up...barter is already happening among people in small communities...and for few things.... it just cannot be implemented in global scale... (how many potatoes do i have to give for a plane ticket to China???)
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  Kelly Lightchalice August 9, 2011 at 3:03pm

  LOL, oh I love you Rae :)  I'm not going to feed your wolf today, hun.
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  Exo August 9, 2011 at 2:11pm

  "Good point Woofler.....If she hates wasting time with us, so much, why is she here....??" - Drekx Omega

   

  Now you are spouting what I wrote to her when you were still new here. I'm sure you have read that and you may be wondering why I said that. This is a cyclical rant from Rae. A few months (or years) from now, she will still be ranting the same things. She has a negative mentality and she should not wonder that she attracts negative entities in the astral plane.

   

  She wants everyone to respect her opinions yet she doesn't respect the opinions of others and instead belittle them and call them naive. That is Rae for you.
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    Drekx Omega > Exo August 9, 2011 at 2:19pm

    Unfortunately, my friend, you speak the truth anent Rae.....we have all received that sharp tongue....The best way is detachment and I sincerely know how difficult that is when you are in the firing line...

    But, you may have said this yourself, earlier, but I have also experienced it from her...I think we all have...
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  John Jancar August 9, 2011 at 4:39am

  There is this old Native saying, I heard it at the Native museum I work at, it goes something like, when we cut down all the trees and kill all the animals and pollute our rivers and soil to a point where nothing will live and grow in them, we will realize...we cannot eat money. So what really is real value? Gold is just a metal, silver is just a metal. I don't get why people put so much worth in these things. People want to stockpile gold and silver, why, they can't eat it. You mays well stockpile what you really can use, like food and water. I think food is a better bartering item than gold is, any day!