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Karma

Posted by Will on July 26, 2009 at 7:52pm in Spirituality In General
Let's say I decide to go out and shoot someone. What would be the repercussions? Is there some cosmic chalkboard that tallies up my merits and demerits? Having killed a person, do I now owe something back to the Universe? Do I have to make amends for what I've done? These are the basic ideas behind karma. Some see it as the saying “As you sow, so shall you reap”, but that doesn't quite sum up all the implications behind karma.The idea of sin and karma are essentially the same thing. Within both belief systems, you commit “evil” acts and then you get what you “deserve”. Eastern and Western religions are far more similar than either side would like to admit. They both enforce essentially the same behavior in order to avoid sin/bad karma. Superficially, they look quite different, but the actual impact they have on people's lives and moral systems are practically the same. When I refer to karma, I'm not just speaking about Hindu ideals, but the parallel dogmas that inhabit nearly every religion in the world.Who determines what is good karma and what is bad karma? Is there some universal judge or set of infallible laws that determine this? That's what the religions would have us believe, yet in actuality, their systems of right and wrong are found within their “holy” books. Some ancient dusty tome contains the set of rules we're supposed to follow if we want a happy life, and afterlife. “Thou shall not kill” is generally a very good guideline to follow, but has the concept of sin/karma brought any real Peace to the world? Or is it still full of conflict and war?There's implications behind the idea of karma that people would do well to be Consicous of. One of the major ones is judgment. For us to accrue karma, something or someone must be judging our actions as right or wrong, good or bad. There's a story of a Sage who's son breaks his leg in a farming accident. The townspeople come to the Sage and say, “Wow, isn't that bad luck?” The Sage replies, “Maybe.” Then a week later the local army comes to recruit all the young men, and only the Sage's son is skipped. Again, the townspeople come and say, “Wow, what amazing luck you have.” And the Sage simply replies, “Maybe.” The Sage understands that it's foolish to judge these events. What seems like a curse today might be a blessing tomorrow. Judging anything is just going to increase the emotional turmoil in your life.Another implication behind sin/karma is punishment. Punishment is the brother of judgment. What would be the point of judging anything as bad if some sort of consequence didn't follow? The whole concept of good and evil would fall apart if people didn't put a system of rewards and punishments behind it. So was the Sage's son being punished when he broke his leg? Or was he being rewarded since it allowed him to skip military service?I tell you that neither is true. The only judgments that we ever truly suffer from are self-judgments. Even if you're convicted and jailed for a crime you didn't commit, there's still no good reason to curse your fate, though it may be hard for most to see. All suffering is self-imposed and judgment is what creates suffering. It's possible to release all of your judgments, it's only a dualistic belief system inside your mind. Judgment divides experience into a heaven and a hell, one desires the “good” and avoids the “bad”. Life becomes black and white. Each action is right or wrong, and I don't think it's hard to see just how much stress and worry this puts on a person. With the illusion of karma, one believes they're constantly being judged from some outside source, and this naturally leads to constant self-judgment and judgment of others.Now, the way I've explained karma so far isn't the way everyone sees it, nor do I think it's what the word originally meant. A dualistic society has turned karma into a system of good and evil, but in reality, karma is only attachment. There's no negative or positive attachments, that would be judgment which is an attachment in and of itself. One doesn't need to do “good” acts to generate “good” karma and escape suffering. In fact this just increases one's attachments, one's karma, and invariably leads to more suffering. To move beyond suffering one simply lets go of one's attachments. One moves beyond karma altogether and this leads to truly selfless actions. One doesn't commit good deeds because they think they're gonna get some reward or punishment down the line, ones actions are their own rewards.Sin, karma, attachment, desire, all the same thing. All distractions for being Present. Joy is found in the Present, karma keeps one stuck in the past trying to control the future. In believing attachments are real, one ignorance the Present, where True Reality occurs. You don't transcend illusion by accruing good karma, by charitable work or by fighting sin. These things all feed into the illusion that you have some debt to pay off. When you act from this mindset you're just going to build up more and more illusion. You're already forgiven for everything you're ever done and ever will do. The Universe doesn't care if you stole a candy bar as a child, God isn't interested in revenge. There's no punishment save for you punishing yourself. If you put the cause of suffering outside of yourself, you've just robbed yourself of your ability to move beyond that suffering. And it's the exact same way with putting the source of happiness outside of yourself. People use karma as an excuse for not taking responsibility for their own lives. Suffering becomes a punishment they “deserve” and have to make amends for, instead of what it really is, a very limited way to looking at the Universe. These things are as simple or as complicated as people choose to make them.Unconditional Love From Will, Mother & Father Godhttp://gflcentral.ning.com
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  • Goddess July 27, 2009 at 4:19pm
    Of course it is not just negative, but more importantly positive!!!! Yes, to each his own. I know that I have been working out karma from my past life in this life, but that is the great thing about this universe, you can think, feel, and believe whatever is true to YOU!!!
  • Daytuner July 26, 2009 at 11:54pm
    It's still a question of Perspective and Balance in each of us. If Karma is what we chose, so for some people Karma is still REAL in THEIR reality because of their personal experience including Past, Present , and Future and that's a good thing. But as we already know , Past and Future are no longer, are they ? So....
  • Daytuner July 26, 2009 at 11:26pm
    Do you mean Karma has no longer reason to be Here "Now" ?

  • Goddess July 26, 2009 at 10:10pm
    Karma is the law of cause and effect, if you negatively impact someone then life will bring you a parallel experience at a point in your life when you can learn from it...my thoughts anyway...Karma is real. Real as can be.
    • Will > Goddess July 26, 2009 at 11:04pm
      Who determines what a negative impact is?

      I agree that we're given experiences to learn from, but I think it's far beyond some type of consequence for a "negative" thing we did.
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