The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way. As Naarad instructed them, they are worshipping idols. They are blind and mute, the blindest of the blind. The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them. But when those stones themselves sink, who will carry you across? ||2|| (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang, 556)
Within the home of his own self, he does not even come to see his Lord and Master. And yet, around his neck, he hangs a stone god. ||1|| The faithless cynic wanders around, deluded by doubt. He churns water, and after wasting his life away, he dies. ||1||Pause|| That stone, which he calls his god, that stone pulls him down and drowns him. ||2|| O sinner, you are untrue to your own self; a boat of stone will not carry you across. ||3|| Meeting the Guru, O Nanak, I know my Lord and Master. The Perfect Architect of Destiny is pervading and permeating the water, the land and the sky. ||4||3||9|| (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang, 739)
Their service is useless. Those who fall at the feet of a stone god their work is wasted in vain. ||1|| My Lord and Master speaks forever. God gives His gifts to all living beings. ||1||Pause|| The Divine Lord is within the self, but the spiritually blind one does not know this. Deluded by doubt, he is caught in the noose. The stone does not speak; it does not give anything to anyone. Such religious rituals are useless; such service is fruitless. ||2|| (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang, 1160)
In your home is the Lord God, along with all your other gods. You wash your stone gods and worship them. You offer saffron, sandalwood and flowers. Falling at their feet, you try so hard to appease them. Begging, begging from other people, you get things to wear and eat. For your blind deeds, you will be blindly punished. (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang, 1240)
So what if you worshipped statues, monuments or pictures? Worshiping these, your soul has been tired (meaning you are close to death) but you have not found anything. You donate rice rice, you burn joss-stick, wick lamps or Franklin-cense, you burn oil lamps and perform many other rituals but that statue does not get you anything because it has not life. Hey idiot! What do you get out of performing these rituals? What can a stone give you? If this stone had life, then it would have been able to give you something. Think this over and start reciting God’s praises, then you will know the right path and you will know that without God, you cannot get away from this cycle of birth and death. (Shabad Hazaray, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)
While worshipping stones some people are bowing before them and some others are withholding idols of stones in their necks. Some people have faith that God is in the south while others consider God, is toward the west and they are bowing their heads in those directions. Some people are worshiping idols foolishly while others are adoring the dead. The whole world is busy in such false performances without knowing the secret mystery of God. (Akal Ustat, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)
O foolish beast! You do not recognize Him, Whose Glory hath spread over all the three worlds. You worship the creatures of God, on account of which your future (in the yond) is lost. For self interest you do such sin that even then great sin is ashamed of that. O ignorant, fall at the feet of the Lord. God does not reside in these stones. (Bachittar Natak, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)
Why do you worship stones? The Lord-God is not within those stones; you may only worship Him, whose adoration destroys clusters of sins; with the remembrance on the Name of the Lord, the ties of all suffering are removed; ever mediate on that Lord because the hollow religious will not bear any fruit. (33 Swayeas, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)
The hollow religion became fruitless and O being ! you have lost millions of years by worshipping the stones; you will not get power with the worship of stones; the strength and glory will only decrease; In this way, the time was lost uselessly and nothing was achieved and you were not ashamed; O foolish intellect ! You have not remembered the Lord and have wasted your life in vain. (33 Swayeas, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)
I have killed hill Rajas (kings) who are bent on mischief. They are stone idol worshippers, I break idols and I worship one Lord. (Zaffarnama, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)So who is right and who is wrong?All these places of worship have become money making places with less devotion and healing but more run by greedy staff. The Vatican was found to be very wealthy and recently a Hindu teme in India was found with large amounts of Gold .. So is it not all business, greed and control ?
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Go into a Sikh Temple and just observe them and you will see the majority nearly 95% do not wash their hands before eating and even a lot of them serving do not wash their hands before handling food....what good is to wear a nice coloured turban with no Common Sense in their brains.... Most have a bandage on their heads.. The women have the same mentality.
They bow down on all fours or some all five flat out and then they eat food with their dirty hands ...they lack basic common sense but pretend to know it all.
....all the spiritual/mind like and body answers are within our minds and heart.........................
we do not need empty idols and "holy books" to find a bliss.................
all is needed is a strive to perfection , each individual on his/her own.....................................,,
Well yea...but you missed the point Feather. The point was....the idea of idoltry..and how you shouldn't worship idols. I understand completely what you're saying, about images....and tuning into frequencies....that's pretty basic actually.
Me too, I have a poster of Michael Jackson in my room...and when I look at it, I feel his energy, I connect with it. I have a rotation of Barack Obama and Arnold Schwarzenegger and a whole host of images of people, and places, that I like....on my laptop desktop display. I understand all about how important images are.
It's one thing to honor....and even admire and emulate....it's one thing to have examples that help guide you. It's another....to revere...and idolize....it's completely different. Idolizing makes this person or thing, into something so great, probably greater than they really are....and you have to revere them for their greatness. It's saying that these people are just special, and they need to be honored even worshiped for being so much better than you are. That's not good....you shouldn't idolizing anything....and I think that's the point Ravinder was making.
A book is a book, is a book. Basically people worship these books because of the knowledge inside, but it's still basically a material manifestation. Also people worship stone carvings of spiritual teachers, because of the knowledge these teachers have brought to them through the books they have written or others have written containing the masters words. These books, pictures and etc. are tools in helping the spiritual student in visualizing the Light of Truth within themselves.
Spirituality is purely an individual thing, not mass
so obssessed with packaging that we forget about the content
mahavir was not a jain, guru saheb was not a sikh and mohammed was not a muslim- food for thought.
Also they tend to ignore common people in the temple as their full focus is on stone idol worship.
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