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  Marique November 10, 2009 at 2:37am

  Good question Napa. I am positive that humans lied to me...the government.....The only lies that Zetas told me as far as I can tell was when they said that things they did to me would not hurt, and it was excrusiatingly painful and did hurt like hell and physically harmed me. The other lie they told me is that I would not remember my encounters with them, and unfortunately I do remember just about all of that. But I think that they told me stuff would not hurt, because they did not completely understand what did and did not hurt for we humans, and I also think that whatever they did to my mind to make me forget did not work, so I guess the things they told me were not lies from their perspectives and viewpoint. As far as the visions of devastation, I do not know if that is what the future holds so cannot say much about that either as to whether that is a lie or not. It just confused me that they would show disasters to us, but also show wonderful scenes where the hybreds and humans all lived happily together on a beautiful and idyllic earth. If they wanted us to stop abusing the earth I could understand why they tried to show us what we were doing to the earth was so wrong and the destruction of the earth we were causing, but if they knew that Nibiru was going to come along and make a huge mess of the earth, then why did they pick earth to want to take over and live on. Guess that is what confuses me. Were they speaking about different timelines..I wonder about that. I am just so confused and not sure what to think about them.
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  Marique November 9, 2009 at 2:33pm

  I feel that it is a scare tactic. A lot of abductees were shown visions of cataclysm. In that case I think it was an attempt to coerce cooperation for their agenda, kind of like take care of the earth or this is what will happen to your planet, and they had some very valid points. I never discounted the fact though that they might be onto something we did not know about. That haunted me for years, all those death and destruction visions..... Their concern with our planet seemed sincere to me, but I don't think they gave a rats ass about we humans, they just wanted the earth to be in good shape when their hybreds were on earth populating it. They also used to show us visions of a utopian atmosphere where their hybreds and the humans were intermingled and all happy like a day at the park where everything was all wonderful, green and lush just like the garden of eden.So if they really thought the earth was going to get devastated and they are smarter than us supposedly, then why did they come here in the first place if they knew it would get devastated by nibiru influences. They made it clear that they wanted earth for their home. So to me the visions of cataclysm did not make sense however. Kind of an oxymoron. Which is it Zeta? I do not expect truth from them, they lied to me often.
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    k8 The navigator > Marique November 9, 2009 at 9:02pm

    My experience is that they cross time and dimensions, there are already hybrids livng here and they have been for generations. It's not to negate anything anyone else has percieved or experienced...Just following the board..
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      Marique > k8 The navigator November 10, 2009 at 2:58am

      I agree with you that there are already hybreds living right amonst us here now. I have run into one or two that I knew right off the bat that they were hybreds. Not so much from their looks, although they did look a bit different but I could see it in their eyes and I could just sense the Zeta in their movements and they way they looked at people. And I could here them in my mind, just like I could when I was being taken. They have a way of looking at you that feels like they are looking into you, through you, and into your mind all at once. It is quite chilling if you are not used to it.
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    Barron November 9, 2009 at 12:58am

    Sorry Captain Sayza....., i don't get your meaning? :-)
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  Jacques November 8, 2009 at 12:59am

  There are two events which are previous, one concerns the Hercolubus or hercobulus Planet which is invisible because it is in our twin Universe and such people who live in the South Hemisphere could see its effects. As for Nibiru, this planet is so far distant that we cannot see it. I shall tell more further or later. For those who speak french look a while on autresdimensions.com
  
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  Barron November 7, 2009 at 11:59pm

  Physicist Nassim Haramein has video proof that Planet Nibiru has come and gone.
  
  A comet almost 2x the size of Jupiter (the largest planet in our solar system) recently passed through our solar system but was never reported on main stream media because the scientists and astrologists "thought we were toast". This comet, which Nissim believes was Nibiru, should have disrupted our solar system due to its mass and gravitational pull. Mercury should have been pulled into the sun while earth should have experienced tidal waves all over the planet. The comet was on track to hit the sun, but a huge sun flare emission veered the comet off course, as it traveled past the sun and out of our solar system. This was visible from the west coast in the early morning in February 2003. Two comets have gone by inside the orbit of Mercury into the sun.
  
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTlqt...e=channel_page
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  Someone Else November 7, 2009 at 7:46pm

  first statement is FALSE, the planets move in eclipse shaped orbits not circular orbit. (that how we have seasons depending on when we are close or far away from the sun)
  And comets are in very long ecliptic orbits, hence they appear with the same time interval. (i dont know how big comets can be, but they are in huge orbits that i know)
  
  didn't finish watching this, its clear the creator of this video doesn't know any astronomy at all.
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    Marique > Someone Else November 10, 2009 at 2:49am

    You are right Runa, and I guess I missed that point completely. Now I am embarrassed I even posted it, not trying to spread disinformation honestly, but I guess it was good for discussion if nothing else. It has been many years since I took astronomy evidentally......I thought some of the other points were interesting to think about though. It seems all that gets posted about Nibiru is about how Nibiru is coming and we are in for a world of destruction and should be ready to bend over and kiss our ass goodbye, all doom and gloom hanging over us and I just wanted to post something from a different perspective just for discussion..hoping to hear something uplifting......but it seems the consensus is that we are pretty much ready to be dead rotting rubble in corpse piles soon if Nibiru is indeed scheduled for arrival..not too uplifting to think about..Is there anyone at all that is NOT convinced that Niburi will destroy earth soon. I would like to think that I am not the only one wishing Nibiru is NOT coming to do us in.