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  • "The question is NOT what the illuminati is doing to us....but what WE DO about the illuminati"!!!
    • Yeah I get your point Vagelis, but I need to understand what I'm up against before I can do anything useful.
      • Ok..sure...but i was not referring to you Merryn...i was just talking about us ppl, in general... :)
        • Ok : )
  • I'll be keeping an eye on this for next few years to see what transpires. I'm still keeping watch on the bilderberg group and the committe of 300 (current and former U.S. presidents).
    • I've been doing a bit of reading around this stuff, and I'm still struggling to grasp the motivation/mindset of these people. From what I gather so far, it's not necessarily that they are evil, but that they lack normal human emotions, specifically empathy. And they believe that the ends justifies the means. In regard to reducing the population, I can see why this could be a good thing in many ways, but the means by which they are trying to achieve this are despicable to any normal human.

      If anyone feels they have a better understanding of what they are trying to do and WHY, please share.
      • Hi Merryn

        You intuitively hit the nail on the head, "From what I gather so far, it's not necessarily that they are evil, but that they lack normal human emotions, specifically empathy"

        They have an elitist mindset and see the rest of us as "goyim" or "useless eaters" or "sheeple" etc which are terms they bandy about.

        In fact, many are not that human as you and i would specify "human". Sure, they may have a human shell, but the being or consciousness is not terrestrial in some cases, and in other cases, the original incarnating soul is sitting in the back seat whilst a low level astral entity (often, once again, not of this Earth) is in the driving seat. Good examles f this are Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsefeld, Condaleeza Rice, and NZ's very own Helen Clark.
        • Yeah, I think you a referring to the reptilian aspect, but I don't really buy into that 'evil-reptilians' things. It's not that different to racism. I am only just scratching the surface here, so don't really feel able to comment further, but the anti-reptilians hype doesn't sit well with me. I believe that reptilians can be of all levels of enlightenment, just like any other being, although it seems that they are more mentally orientated and less emotionally orientated, whereas most humans are more the other way around. And while I agree that Helen is maybe of that ilk I think it is very harsh to put her in a box and overlook all the great things she did. I think that is just anti-reptilian prejudice. I believe she is a very compassionate person, even though she comes across rather cold and unfeeling-like. (!!)
      • I read once on the 'Illuminati News' website 'Interview with an Illuminati Insider', very interesting and gives an interesting view of things. I mulled this over for weeks... Check it out Merryn and see what you make of it...
        • Hi Marion, thanks heaps (again) for the reference to the Illuminati News website, which has led me to the Bavarian Illuminati website, and now I am on a whole other learning curve!!!! Very interesting stuff : )
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