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What is on the memo in Gen. Ramey's hand?
Air Force General Roger Ramey holding the infamous memo stating "victims" at crash site
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New Roswell Evidence Deciphered: General Ramey's Memo
From George A. Filer Majorstar@aol.com
Director - Mutual UFO Network Eastern
MUFON Skywatch Investigations
Filer's Files #43 10-31-00
Several groups of researchers are working to read the Roswell message. Researcher Tom Carey provides the following data, "The Roswell research team of Tom Carey and Don Schmitt continues to break new ground in their attempt to "decipher" the so-called "Ramey Memo." In one of the July 8, 1947, photographs taken by Fort Worth Star Telegram reporter/photographer, J. Bond Johnson, Gen. Roger M. Ramey can be seen holding a piece of paper with writing on it as he kneels by some obvious weather balloon debris on the floor of his office. Several teams of researchers, including Carey and Schmitt, have attempted, by means of computer software programs, to "read" what is contained in what has become known as the "Ramey Memo."
 
In July, with the support of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in ROSWELL, Carey and Schmitt made arrangements to have the original negative scanned by sophisticated techniques at the University of Texas [Arlington] Archives where it is kept. This was a one-time-only operation as permitted by the University of Texas. The result is, in essence, a new negative of the original picture and not merely a photo of it. This includes a number of non-UFO-related entities as well as several well-respected Roswell-focused investigators who have attempted to "read" the memo before. One of these, respected Roswell researcher David Rudiak has forwarded his results to me, and they are gratifying to say the least. David advises me that the new scan helped to "clear up" some of the problem areas that he had previously been having trouble with.
 
Neil Morris from the University of Manchester in England with the Roswell Photo Research Team plus Don Burleson have also provided their interpretations of the message. Neil states, "In this comparison I have used my standard convention in my 'take' of the message. 1) Capitals denote firm interpretation. 2) Lower space are educated guesses. (they fit for spelling and syntax but may be incorrect) 3) "*" denote unknown letter, 4) My line format, is to the best I can conclude, correct to the grid layout of the typed text in the Ramey Message. (M) - Neil Morris current "take". April 2000 (B) -- Don Burleson's interpretation MUFON Journal March 2000. - (R) - David Rudiak September 2000. This is a work in progress by dedicated researchers. Tom Carey provides some comments after each sentence:
 
Line 1. ???XXXX-XXX--X-XXXXXXXX XXX--XX-XXX XXXX XXX--XX-X XX XXX
(M) reco VERY Was ROSWELl Head oIc giveN AS THE
(B) ECO---- OPERATION WITH ROSWELL DISK 074 MJ--- AT THE
(R) NEAR OPERATION AT THE
[This probably refers to the one of the recovery operations. Remember, we
believe that there were at least two, possibly, three sites associated with
whatever crashed at Roswell in 1947 - Tom]
 
Line 2.????XXX XXX XXX XXXXXXX XX XXX XXXXX XXX XXXXXXXXX XX XXX
(M) [n]ext 4hS EXp VIctIMS of THE WRecK and CONVAy ON TO THE
(B) - THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE
(R) RAN)CH AND THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE
[This probably refers to the Foster Ranch or possibly another ranch as well
as to the "victims" associated with the crash. We believe that there were
one, possibly two, "victim" sites. And we know that they went to Ft. Worth
prior to heading east. - Tom]
 
Line 3. ???XXX XX XXXX XXXXXX XXX.
(M) *** at FORT WORTH. Txe.
(B) TEAM AT FORT WORTH. TXE.
(R) T)EAM AT FORT WORTH, TEX.
 
Line 4. ??XXXXXX XX XXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXX XX-XXX XXXX-XX-
(M) w**S** SOrTei *e**** thAT- ONUS raaF T&E A3**9* Landparty
(B) -- SS-- ON THE "DISK" MUST- HAVE SENT -0- A-AM-- A-------D
(R) THE "DISC" THEY will ship FOR A3-AS2
ARrived(.)
[Something in the disk - corpses? - was going to be shipped to Gen. Ramey who
is identified as "A1". Again, we know this in fact happened. - Tom]
 
Line 5. ?XXXX-XX XX-XXXX XXXXXX XX XXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXX XXX---
(M) SOught CRASHes *O**** are needed sITEone ** **s***** locate
(B) ----- URGENT. POWERS ARE NEEDED SITETWO AT CARLSBAD, NMEX--
(R) BY B29-ST OR C47. WRIGHT AF ASSIST FLIGHTS AT ROSWELL. ASSURE
[Following on the previous line, we know that a set of bodies was shipped to
Ft. Worth the following day - July 9th, 1947 - by B-29 special transport
("ST"). We also know that flights from Wright Patterson to and from Roswell
did in fact take place - Tom]
 
6. ??XX-X-XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXX XXX XXXX-
(M) MIDDAY 509# TOLD newspaPeR segment of STORY Adv *****
(B) ------SAFE TALK NEWSPAPER MEANING OF STORY AND -----
(R) THAT CIC-TEAM SAID THIS MISTAKEN MEANING OF STORY AND THINK
[By this, it appears that the original press release of July 8th, 1947
stating that the RAAF had recovered a flying disk was a local mistake
perpetrated by the CIC Team at Roswell, i.e., Sheridan Cavitt., rather than
being orchestrated from Washington - Tom]
 
Line 7. ?-XXXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXX XX-XX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXX
(M) LLY THrY EVEN PUT for AF WEATATN BALLOONS raDar WERE
(B) ONLY SHOW ---- ---- BY WEATHER BALLOONS
400-KW WAVE
(R) LATE TODAY NEXT SENT OUT PR OF WEATHER BALLOONS WOULD WORK
[This line talks about sending out the weather balloon press release ("PR"),
and that is would work better - see next line - Tom]
 
Line 8. ??-XXXX-X XXXX XXX XXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXX.
(M) And Land L*** denver ofww3
(B) -- 9 AND LAND L--- DENVER CREWS.
(R) BETTER IF THEY ADD LAND DEMO RAWIN CREWS.
[if weather balloon demonstrations using Rawin targets were conducted. These
in fact did take place as we can see in the July 10th Alamogordo News and the
July 11th Fort Worth Star Telegram. - Tom]
 
Line 9. XXXXX-
(M) ******
(B) TEMPLE
(R) RAMEY
 
Neil Morris writes, "At the moment, the text seems to me to be more advisory ie a report or summery of the situation and seems to cover these main points.
 
1) It gives early warning "4hr" of "victims" being transferred to ? "at Fort Worth".
 
2) It seems to say the "onus" of the search is/was placed on a Technical and Engineering unit and they are requesting further support possibly out at a "site one". 3) It informs that the 509th Bomb Group released some of the information to the media at noon that day, 4) It advises "adv" that ?initially? the theory of the "weather balloon's" radar reflectors as being responsible had been suggested or given. I personally get the impression this is info being given from a third party fully aware of what is going on and to what extent, they seem to have a full overview of the situation. From the way the 509th is referred to I don't think this document originated there, but it does seem to have the feel of a report from "a forward command." Thanks to Neil Morris neil@adm1.ph.man.ac.uk. David Rudiak, and Don Burleson, for their continuing efforts in this area of Roswell research.

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  • The Roswell incident took place before the formal and intricate UFO crash coverup processes were fully planned.....Several Zeta craft were downed over the years following Roswell and they were handled more hermetically....

     

    The coverup in 1947 had made no considerations of the possible future advances in modern technology, that would reveal the photographic details in the clumsy disinfo photo, above....They had wanted the reported crash to be revealed a mistaken weather balloon, with Jessie Marcell made the dupe and scapegoat.....He, an intel officer, spuriously being unable to tell the difference between a "flying saucer" ET spaceship and a common weather balloon.....That has backfied on them now..

    The photo in General Ramey's office of himself and DeBose, holding a red herring weather balloon test component foil...There were other parts out of shot, including balsa wood fragments and radar target items...All a subterfuge to counter the press reports....

    I knew about this, but still good to see you have posted it, Malcolm......cheers, Drekx

    • Thanks.

      The really interesting aspect of the Lincoln County and Corona areas of New Mexico are the types of people there. I talked to some residents during my youtube amateur video outtakes ("UFOs and Billy The Kid"), and they included retired law enforcement and scientists (who appeared to be living very well) who told me in a forceful manner "there was absolutely no UFO crash," and others who claimed their grandparents and/or parents were at the crash site area and were very nervous and quietly talking to me about what their elders told them in regards to the UFO crash. If you are ever in that area, go to the "No Scum Allowed Saloon," built in 1880. Lots of great stories!!!

      It's amazing how you can sense when some people are telling you the truth and others are feeding you a pre-scripted line. Very much like mainstream media. 

  • Notice that the words "disk" and "victims" are mentioned three times before the word "weather balloon" is written near the bottom, and "wreck" is mentioned twice (also before the words "weather balloon").

    Very interesting

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