I know what disclosure is, I also know what decloaking means. I waint to know what YOU think about just one aspect to it all. Do you think, believe,or feel that there will be mass landings of (UFO) craft on the Earth between now and the next, say, fifteen years, or thereabouts? Is it so important that it happens at all?
There are countless articles, essays, documentaries, blogs and discussions about disclosure, Nesara and Gesara, ETs and so on but for the purpous of this discussion, all I want to know is whether you think "you" will see millions of star ships in the sky and do you think it will happen in two weeks from now, in five years, twenty five years? sooner? Are you even bothered or could you care less?
When would you like it to happen? Do you think, as some people suggest, it has "already happened on higher levels' etc? Well, if thats true, then thats not really very helpfull, is it? .. why so? because its fine on higher levels, but we are dealing with this one down here, the tedious third dimension. Perhaps you feel its "not about landings" (I beg to differ) but that its about spreading love, well, that may be true but lets just cut to the chase here, we are talking about VISIBLE MOTHERSHIPS and millions, if not billions, of smaller craft flying right above your head in the sky.
I know many of you would rather direct the conversation in favor of the Ascension process, the awakening of conciousness and the balancing of the Chakras. Well, we are aware of all of that aswell, thats already in the bag.
So, would that be something you feel is so intrinsically linked to the arrival of star beings and without attention being drawn to those other aspects of conciousness, there simply could not be any celestial "show"? What are your thoughts on massive UFOs turning up in the sky and not just the shakey, grainy Youtube footage we are all familiar with? We know that according to certain "channeled materials", there are never any dates given as to when the 'big event" is to occur, but you see, thats the maggot in the apple right there, isnt it? Its the old "carrot dangling and donkey following" sales pitch for all the reasons we already know. However, forget about that aswell for a moment and just throw in your two cents, do you think you will see it "in your lifetime" and if so, then lay a date on the table, even for your own amusment. Would you rather just press on, with the prospect of existing in a dystopian future and a seemingly endless, depressing set of circumstances (alongside everything negitive in the world) or would you rather live in paradise? Unfortunately paradise is not at the forefront of a lot of peoples minds, hence the state of the world we find ourselves in and for some people, they would rather we do not expierence paradise, in fact, they would rather see us suffer to the extreme. Its time those people do some serious evolving, and quickly, but can you see it occuring? Its like watching paint dry. I give up on many of them, I give up on waiting for their spiritual awakening.
Look at any slaughterhouse employee, any psychopath, any murderer, rapist, child abuser, corrupt politician, corrupt banker, racist, hooligan, narcisist or religious fanatic. Look at all the war, turmoil, sickness, poverty, death, destruction, the chaos in the world, the list is endless. Its too much, enough is enough, but it appears it cannot be stopped without a "devine intervention" and yes, I believe it can happen. Maybe most of us are ready for it, but clearly there are millions of others who are not. Well, my proposal to our starry brethren is this: "Nevermind those who are not ready, because they are too slow to awaken so please make your appearence, you are more than welcome and those who are still asleep they will wake up pretty damm quickly!". I often walk barefoot on soft grass, weather permitting, but I am aware that without sufficiant grounding, you can basically only dream. I once read the words "Plant your head in the ground and plant your feet firmly in the sky", to which I adere to. To my understanding, when we are balanced, centered and anchored then we are somewhat in touch with and allowing the endless flow of Gods unfailing love, in which case, part of that love is us, reunifying with our Universal family, not just in meditation or dream states but in the flesh, therefore, bring it on. Its just not going to happen any time soon, but how you wish it would.
Lets just say, you are one of those who dosent care when it happpens, if it happens or even if it dosent happen, that you are far more concerned with politics, mainstream media, your favorite TV show, or deep meditation, natural foods, yoga, breathing excercises, saving animals or whatever you do in your daily life, well, put all that aside for a moment and just focus on the sudden appearence of a Mothership. Do you think it will only happen if you are aligned with it, in terms of your vibration in correspondence to its vibration? Do you feel it will only happen if enough people are aligned to match the vibration of it? or, do you think it will "come out of the blue" and indeed, as some recent channeled material suggests, "at any moment" as apparently the old "green light" has been switched on and we are good to go .. (where have you heard that before?) .. (by the way, that "green light" has been green for quite a while now, and still no sign of mind blowing UFOs above your house with benevolent ETs with altruistic intentions, waving at you from the windows!)
I find all of the Youtube videos of UFO sightings boring, because you can hardly see anything in them anyway apart from a tiny little dot in the sky or whatever. Forget all that Youtube footage, I am taking about full on, up close and personal physical contact with ETs, when you look into the sky above your head and you see a giant UFO, pretty much like this:
.. and indded, you come face to face with, for example, those from the Pleiades, in the proverbial flesh! Personally, I would love to believe all of the very wonderful and positive "channeled" messages that I occasionally read from time to time, about the "imminent arrival" of our star family en masse, but it is like listening to the same record whereby we know the tune like the back of our hand. After a while, that tune begins to wear a little thin, and you want to hear a different song. Perhaps those messages are "designed" to be repetitive for some reasons, maybe to drill a message into peoples heads and if thats the case, then what exactly is the message?.. what is the message they wish to drill into our heads? Are they trying to seduce us somehow, with all this talk of "first contact"? When you read those messages, do they wet your apatite and make you feel exited about what is always"about to happen" or do they make you throw your eyes up in your head and skip to another topic of conversation? Are all of these weekly messages leading up to something "wonderfull"? or do you think that the people who compile those messages are ever so slightly"insane"?
Having said that, I respect the good intentions of people like Sheldon Nidle, although there is always a large grain of salt at hand and for those who tiresly peddle their wares, even if I find what they are constantly repeating hard to swallow. There must be a reason why so many millions of people in the world believe in disclosure, UFO decloaking and landings etc, and yet all we have up to this point, are articles, documentaries and discussion board forums on the subject. So far, since the so called Roswell incident, NOTHING, in regards to a complete mind bending cosmic expierence promiced by so many different "channeled sources" has transpired in any way, shape or form, despite the countless claims of abductions, visitations and ET contact stories we have heard from people all over the world, whose claims can also never be proven. Forget all that aswell, who needs another abduction story? What we really "need" to happen is the actual expierence of it "BIG TIME", to witness the "Close Encounters" moment once and for all, because it seems to me that working out a spiritual path amidst the chaos of this really screwed up world most definately includes the arrival of our starry brethren and soon, but isnt it always soon and never "now"? .. again, thats the fly in the ointment, the word "soon" is never soon enough. I am not running out of patience, I have tons of that, my question is what do you think about it all? I think that we could sure use a lot of help on this planet, and not just by ourselves in terms of rebuilding our lives through eco friendly or self-sustainability means either. It must be interesting to learn what your perspective is.
Mine is that I simply dont know anymore, other than I would seriously love to see it transpire before I kick the bucket and I am not getting any younger. I am no spring chicken either, and if the average age to make the transition from one life span into the next is roughly 75 years, or thereabouts, then I would say they have about another 30 years to show up before I check out, if indeed, I even live that long. I dont want to see out my life by merely "being here now" and continuously reading about the promise of something extraordinary "about" to occur, it would be nice if it actually happened, for once. Maybe it wont happen in my lifetime, maybe its not supposed too, but if thats the case, then its like being shown what is inside the arc of the covenant, only for it to be inaccessable and constantly out of reach. It would be easy, if I was a skeptic, to pass off the whole idea of disclosure as a total con, a mind game by and for the lunitic fringe but I deeply believe otherwise, you would have to be really asleep to think we are alone in the Multiverse. If they dont show up worldwide in the next twenty minuites, I shall lodge a formal complaint to God. I dont care how big the operation is, its time it was revealed. I suppose I may aswell just nestle in with the rest of you, and just ride it out. To my understanding, there is nothing more we can really do other than discuss it, but can you imagine in another five hundred years from now, we will be on higher levels still and telling ourselves, "Hey, remember Ashtar Command all those centuries ago? .. my, how we have grown since then, its now the year 2515 but have faith, our starry family WILL show up sooner or later!" ... can you imagine in five hundred years from now, how little we will have evolved? They say (whoever "they" are) that the green light is on and we are good to go .... should I look up at the sky now? ... or later?
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yes, i agree Andromendan - e - VELVED ... i am aware that some of these of beings tend to be more malevolent than others.Since my encounters with some them i started having safety issues but i have to say that when someone encounters one of them everything opens up ..for example my third eye open and i was guided to see this and i was amazed at this for the first time i didn't know i had this ability then he told me to feel a certain material he was wearing and i felt this soft almost silk feeling on my hands .Dr. Frank Stranges is right he does have soft hands but no markings .Val took me to the past in 1800s where he said where we meet on train . i had many lucid dreams and had accidently went to lower astral planes where he took me out of there .. Lots of things had happened to me while i was with him ..He showed me that he was pure light not physical and this who we are too .In 2006 i was suffering from depression and he healed me of this terrible suffering i was going through .He is a tall being and showed me many things of who he really is and the abilites he posses .i have say he really is amazing .A Star being will never leave you they are alway there for you .
i didn't know this Valiant Thor is of Scandinavian Ancestory this new information But not from Venus ? yes, i thought they were a race called the Eilohim an Angelic Race this is what Dr.Stranges has stated and he has stated in the Paramnormal Talk Show as coming from the Planet Venus known as the Evening and Morning Star ..
i aplologize any missing understanding your questions Luke .What do i think or feel about E.Ts mass landings if they decide to make physical contact with humanity . First all i did have contact with one of these beings from a planet called Venus and his name is Valiant Thor . I met this human looking Being in 2006 but i didn't met him in physical form i met him through a hologram or a vision .Dr.Josuhua David Stone is one who is mentions Valiant Thor in one his books tiltled 'Hidden Mysteries '' and there are others including Dr.Frank .E. Stranges . i read a few of his books . If one ever has met one of these star beings i have to say they are like us with one exception they have many ablities that surpasses humans on the 3d level but at the same time do we posses these abilites and not just E.Ts .When one of these beings makes contact with these being everything opens up and our vison is quite different we don't see just the physical reality we see both . This is why there is so much misunderstanding in communication .Our reality changes and we see both worlds the invisible and the physical is best way i can discrible this as i see it . When i first met this being my life was threaten and so i am careful about contact i don't see these dark beings .i also see the Reptilian race here too and they look like humans but are hybrides .To my knowledge they can all shape - shift and light can be mistaken for a hologram which is one of the ways they can access this reality . .Its amazing what these beings can do and they are very highly intelligent and all of them are telepathic ..yes, i do care about E.Ts but its only the one who care about saving this planet and they are doing the best they can to make physical contact which i believe will eventually happen ..
Hi Helen, no worries and no need to apologise at all, so glad you are in on the conversation. I am not too familiar with Valiant Thor although I have heard the name mentioned a few times in the forum, however I am familiar (somewhat) with Joshua David Stone, he of the (I Am University) if thats correct? I believe there to be many ETs with totally different aspects in appearence, indeed as kelly mentioned, that because of evolution, they would not entirely look like human beings. I am reminded of a scene from the film 'Naked" whereby the central charactor protaganist, the "anti hero" "Johnny" played by David Thewlis in a powerhouse performance, relates his theory of evolution to a nightshift security guard.
I also believe that many of them can shape shift, change form and run Governments (Lol) ... but seriously, I think the origin of it is reptilian. There must be numerous offshoots of the reptilain "Alien" spieces, all teleapthic, void of love, empathy, compassion, feelings, Archons basically. Those "Grays" (non reptilian) you hear about for example, to my understanding, they are some kind of sub organic insectoid "machines" who number in the billions, carrying out the dirty work (abductions, human and animal expieriments, etc) of their parasitic reptilian overlords. I think the Archon subject is tied into all of this, somehow. Personally, they dont bother me in the slightest, if I met one face to face, or whether in an altered state, I would level with it straight away, by simply asking whether or not its Christ Conciousness, if its not, then it can basically piss off out of my reality, back to its perfect place of self expression :-)
In my head, I can see an infinite number of benevolent, loving beings, fully heart centered who have evolved so far up the evolutionary ladder, they have surpassed the Christ Conciousness, and who thrive in levels of light beyond our comprehension. Its these beings whom I envision reuniting with us, in starships that alone will blow our cotten socks off, rather than anything "lesser", for want of another word. I dont really know, but I cant f**king wait to find out :-) .. to my understanding, it will glorious, extremely hgh in vibration and indeed, it will provide us with the greatest relief we have ever known. The idea of having to have patience until the cows come home is both amusing and also a nagging thought, have you ever felt you were not only knocking on Heavens door but banging the damm thing down to the floor? to literally connect two cables together, because the light on Earth had been, up to that point just flickering, not fully illuminated, such is the passion I feel for this comming cosmic reunion whereby the Earth and all thereon, (and within) are bathed, soothed and completely healed. The cabal is like a contraceptive, preventing the sperm from fertalising the egg, but guess what, there Is a pin hole in the condom .. and we have broken through! :-)
Have you ever felt you were not only knocking on heavens door but banging the damm thing down to the floor? .. yes, i use to feel that way but i also learned my lesson to be patient ..The negative ego can't wait and so it keeps making mistakes over and over ..Intitition is where i learned to connect plus i had to learn how to meditate .I believe this is where i met this star being through meditation .There is another aspect to this whole story it all began with when i was living in another city at the time in 2006. My sisters and niece attended a one Dr.Frank Stranges siminars at one of the Universities in Ottawa ,Canada .One of my sisters had purchased some books from this man and i happen to read one his books and then that was when this Valiant Thor being appeared through this bright halo i believe this was a hologram even the dark one can be seen through these dimensions the lower ones such the astral planes which is located below earth .i believe we live in dimensions of dualtiy light and dark .We need to use discern if we are to connect with higher beings beyond the 7th dimension ... There is so many things happening on every level on this planet right now .At times it may seem hopeless yet i can i see positive changes happening at the same time.i believe there will be many changes taking place our planet and in the process of all these changes would there be any possibility of evacuation .i have to say 'yes' it could happen .Thank You Luke not sure if i had some of your questions here but i try my best to explain even through i many sometimes get off track .. i wasn't sure what kind of reply i might get because i did get some negative replies but glad this was not the case .. i am so thankful this not the case ..Thanks Ever So Much Luke..
Trinity: I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer… I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
~In a year where we saw one of our supposed brightest intellects, Stephen Hawking, suggest that alien visitation would put Humanity in essentially the same position as the Native Americans found themselves when Columbus landed on their shores, by trumpeting what has become an all too predictable response from our highest scientifically minded celebrities: “Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach” was part of Hawking’s 2015, grand declaration… in effect throwing his two cents into this very discussion ;-) & fuel for the fire to the throngs of people who hang Stephen’s thoughts as absolute truth. Even more interestingly, from my perspective, is he’s basically towing the line of an Archontic, fear-porn backbeat, that has worked wonders since the ancient world when it comes to keeping the masses in mental bondage… disconnected from our true origins, which are also, as crazy as it seems, ‘extraterrestrial’. Nevertheless, let me not digress or be too harsh with Mr. Hawking, who like all of us, to one degree or another (due to Archon implants), is simply playing a ‘role’ designed to reinforce his take of ‘reality’. What I also find intriguing is Hawking’s timing… while I see little value in panicking people out over a potential alien, Columbus style, genocidal nightmare that he has zero control over… just perhaps, despite his left brain dominance, he’s actually intuiting something that is closer to ‘happening’. Not the ‘the aliens are here to wipe us out’ trip, which I find highly unlikely… but to ‘official’ First Contact. An event, that from where I stand, is inevitable!… & will undoubtably include aspects that are incredibly challenging & illuminating at the same time. So, positive & negative… ‘good’ & ‘bad’, for lack of better words. I say that, because I feel we’re ultimately talking about an experience that will transcend language… & intellect, for that matter.
So… to brother Luke’s excellent question: Will it happen in our lifetime?… I say, fu@# yeah, IT WILL!!! Why the hell not?… Bring it! & all the 'chaos', shock & awe that will come with it. Nothing will unite the masses quicker… & while I don’t doubt our collective 'Intent' plays a part in the process (which is unfolding by the second), we’re way past the absurd ongoing suggestions that most of Humanity needs to be on the same wavelength on the subject. That’s just not the case… nor will that happen, ever. I hate to break the news to those who continue to play this laughable card as a means to justify the ongoing Galactic delays, but frankly, I just ain’t buying it. Period. What we’re really talking about here is an act of Co-Creation, threefold (Trinity) in nature, between Humanity, our Galactic Brethren & Sistren, & the Planet herself… who, make no mistake about it, is the ‘one’ who’s truly calling the shots. Gaia/Sophia/Mother Earth/the Goddess, whatever you choose to call her, is going to drop the hammer on this whole situation on her terms… not ours, not the Agarthans or the Star Nations… who as far as I can tell, are equally frustrated by the ‘time’ it’s taking for our Intergalactic reunion ;-) That’s what makes the current state of affairs so exciting, or terrifying, depending on the lens one is looking through. Either way, hang on!… It’s gonna be a hell of a ride. From where I stand, ALL the signs within the Gaian-Matrix point to a word that I know leaves many cold, if not a bit nauseous… SOON! (sorry)
So, if waiting for the Galactics to hand out big checks backed by precious metals, while lining us up to ‘regenerate’ in individually assigned Light Chambers is your thing (I’m game)… or waiting for fleets of UFO’s to reign hellfire on the 7-billion plus souls on our planet resonates… whichever of the infinite possibilities makes sense to you. Stand strong! More will be revealed. Thanks for an awesome post, Luke... I truly enjoyed reading everyones insightful & though provoking responses. As I’ve always said, wrestling with these kind of questions is what it’s all about. & for what it’s worth, I think what’s barreling down the chamber is gonna blow us ALL out of the water… in a Good way ;-) ~InLight555
*I’ll leave you with some Illuminating, Multidimensional food for thought from, Terence McKenna:
“Chaos is what we've lost touch with. This is why it is given a bad name. It is feared by the dominant archetype of our world, which is Ego, which clenches because its existence is defined in terms of control.”…“The UFO is nothing more than an assertion of herself by the Goddess into history, saying to science and paternalistically governed and driven organizations: You have gone far enough. We are going to turn the world upside down. Your science is going to be shown up for what it is, nothing more than a pleasant metaphor usefully extrapolated into the production of toys for healthy children. That's what science is good for. It is not some meta-theory at whose feet every point of view from astrology to acupressure to channeling need be laid to have the hand of science announce thumbs up or thumbs down.” ~Terence McKenna
One thing about chaos is that when a system hits maximum chaos then something totally new appears.... like the way boiling water becomes steam. Even though I was hesitant about this before, I have removed the limits to my thinking today and say Bring it. Bring the lightships and the shift in consciousness that it will bring to everyone.
Another wild card the universe has yet to play are the Cities of Light. Most of these are to be built by folks on the ground, but a couple of them are expected to be directly downloaded from the etheric. (this is not the grimy industrial ´´floating city´´that some have seen). I´m thinking if a city of light suddenly appeared in the desert it might be more curious than frightening. One of these cities is enough to shift the whole world to a much higher frequency. Anyhow, just thinking aloud. There are a lot of things that might happen any second....the universe holds all the wild cards and she knows how to play them......I´m waiting with much expectation and enthusiasm..
~Agreed, dear Feather... & I welcome the Cities of Light. It's time to let the veils fall...
Thank you for b e i n g You ;-)
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