Spiritual Forum

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  Roaring Lovely October 14, 2016 at 6:59pm

  Are there example of non psychedelic drugs that American pharmacy influence America to ban?
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    Feather Winger > Roaring Lovely October 15, 2016 at 8:27am

    Good question, but I do not have information on that right now....
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  Feather Winger October 14, 2016 at 6:44pm

  
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  Feather Winger October 14, 2016 at 6:41pm

  
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  Roaring Lovely October 14, 2016 at 5:51pm

  Winger, there is also this story of the relationship between marijuana and hemp. Could it be that the mere treath of hemp to paper industry influence the illegalisation of canabis?
  
  Then what reason do those states and countries offer for the ban of salvinorin A, for scientists say that there isn't any evidence that it is harmfull?
  
  There is also the story of Mexican workers who smocked weed to be behind the ban. All these are quite unethical reasons to ban weed!
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    Feather Winger > Roaring Lovely October 14, 2016 at 6:38pm

    Hemp is legal here...they use it to make clothes, rope and some other things ( I buy hemp seeds for bird food)......just a few small farms, not enough for paper.   Cannabis is a strong medicine,,,it cures cancer, depression and anxiety.  This would replace many pharmacy drugs.....the big pharmacy companies have much control in america.   I don´t think the paper companies have this much control in america.  But it is true that hemp is also banned in USA.  Marijuana has become egal in many states in USA...for medical purposes and in a couple of states for recreational purposes.  The vote next month may make it legal in more places.

    
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  Roaring Lovely October 14, 2016 at 5:35pm

  Of course it is ignorance of spirituality that takes the big role. Understand it this way: what if aeroplanes rather took pple to some astral world. Then mainstream science doesn't aknowledge the reality of astral worlds. A single aeroplane accident might lead to banning aeroplanes simply because they donnot see that astral projection is worth the risk of even a single case of a careless pilot.
  
  Then if someone say in the USA were to raise the issue that marijuana has spiritual benefit that worth some risk, he might even be accused of not considering the seperation of church and state! there isn't a good definition of 'religion'. it allows atheists and mainstream scientists to categorise spirituality under religion. Thus USA has unwittingly allowed atheists to manipulate the constitution and swing the pendulum to the other extreme!
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  Feather Winger October 14, 2016 at 5:03pm

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  Feather Winger October 14, 2016 at 5:00pm

  I think that another reason that some entheogens were banned was because the pharmacy industry does not want the competition.  Recently there was a move to class Kratom as a schedule 1 drug, but as far as I know this failed.  As I understand many people use this non-addictive plant for pain relief.  I agree that much of this banning is due to ignorance.... there was a big campaign against a lot of these entheogens and they were placed in the same category as heroin....the message from the government was that the use of any of these substances led to the use of heroin ....many people still believe this.

  http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html

  A fellow named Anslinger who was working for the dept  prohibition feared his bureau would become obsolete after the end of the prohibition of alcohol, so he mounted  fear campaign against marijuana....even though before he had often said it was perfectly harmless.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger

  ´´“By the tons it is coming into this country — the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him....”

  It is a complex situation and may have also had something to do with the fact that the government could not regulate or tax these substances.

  The Kratom User's Guide
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  Feather Winger October 14, 2016 at 4:23pm

  I´m familiar with salvia divinorium.   It is not true that it is totally legal in the USA for it is illegal in some states. ´´ Louisiana, Missouri, Tennessee, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, North Dakota, and Minnesota have so far passed laws prohibiting Salvia divinorum.  In 2002 they did consider making it illegal at a federal level, but this failed.  Countries where there is some form of control, include Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain, Sweden and the United States.^´´

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Salvia_divinorum_in_t...

  

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