SECRET ACCESS: UFOS ON THE RECORD

So tell me what was it that you seen? Was it eath made, alien craft, energy, spirit? If you did not touch it and meet the occupants, if any, then you help to perpetrate the image that we are nutcases. We have to come at those who don't believe with real evidence. Faith is for believers, proof is for the non believers. We don't have to prove this to us, we already believe it. People who do not believe will not accept that a thing you saw was alien craft without proof, hencce why this is laughed at. Too many hoaxes and misidentifications have cause this to be a joke for the masses because still to this day there is no 100% verifiable proof that a skeptic cannot deny.

People like answers, not limited knowledge and speculations. And that is my whole point, we have to be 100% certain before we tell others, and to be 100% certain you may have to pretend to be a skeptic so that you can objectively look at evidences.

You yourself say "the ufo phenomenon is very real", the definition of UFO is unidentified flying object. If you know what they are they aren't UFO's, nomenclature is also very important.

100% agreed, that one truly verifiable undeniable case that ACTUALLY makes it public will be awesome. Until then anyone who points to the sky and shouts "it's an alien ship" for anything that moves, is detracting from the true search and study of this phenomena.

I have seen this show several times. Do not assume because I wish to bring to attention a very pertinent issue we have to deal with in this community(in fact an issue Mr. Pope brings up several times) that I did/have not read or watched the articles or videos provided. This is how the drama starts. Do you honestly believe I, or anyone for that matter here, think the people who come here mislabel UFO's on purpose to mislead? No of course not. Misidentification occurs constantly, because people do not have the skills or knowledge to ascertain the difference between genuine UFO's (not aliens, as UFO means unidentified flying object, not alien ship) and normal things that seem strange. With the level of CG now available there are many deliberate hoaxes, which catch the people susceptable to misidentification. I personally have made this error myself seeing something I thought was genuine which turned out to be something completely mundane. It happens, no shame in that when we learn to correctly identify strange things. Problems arise when we have people who are witnesses to something they do not understand and claim it alien craft when it has been proven to be another strange occurance or a hoax. The fervor for everyone to have their own genuine experience leads to people forcing their desire of an event to be something it is not so that they too could have "seen my family from the stars".

We are supposed to be working together to uncover truth and we find that it ends up becoming ego battles about who is right and who is wrong. When something is proven a hoax or proven to not be alien craft, to have those things still fed around the community of those awakening is completely irresponsible and detrimental to our cause to prove to those who do not see, that there really is something going on.

That said, I only watched the first min of this vid and remembered that I had seen it before. I am not saying in any of this that the information in this particular film is false or hoaxed or anything of the sort, as I have watched so many of these films so many times I do not recall moment for moment the content of each 1-12 hour long documentary I watch. I even buckled down to watch this huge like 70 part nassim haramein series, each vid being 10 mins long.

If only 1 case is true thats great, it's the 1000 others that some people claim are true but are not that make people laugh at us and make fun of us and say we wear tin foil hats and whatever other nonsense people throw at us. The problem with religions and spiritual groups is the lack of desire to actually prove the truth and it all comes back to "faith" which requires no evidence and serves the cause of awakening those who do not see in no actual beneficial way whatsoever.

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Ara May 12, 2012 at 8:03pm

link to an article: http://www.ufodigest.com/article/official-et-disclosure-nsa-documen...
3smn7ct05z5dx May 12, 2012 at 4:15pm

So tell me what was it that you seen? Was it eath made, alien craft, energy, spirit? If you did not touch it and meet the occupants, if any, then you help to perpetrate the image that we are nutcases. We have to come at those who don't believe with real evidence. Faith is for believers, proof is for the non believers. We don't have to prove this to us, we already believe it. People who do not believe will not accept that a thing you saw was alien craft without proof, hencce why this is laughed at. Too many hoaxes and misidentifications have cause this to be a joke for the masses because still to this day there is no 100% verifiable proof that a skeptic cannot deny.

People like answers, not limited knowledge and speculations. And that is my whole point, we have to be 100% certain before we tell others, and to be 100% certain you may have to pretend to be a skeptic so that you can objectively look at evidences.

You yourself say "the ufo phenomenon is very real", the definition of UFO is unidentified flying object. If you know what they are they aren't UFO's, nomenclature is also very important.
3smn7ct05z5dx May 12, 2012 at 5:38am

100% agreed, that one truly verifiable undeniable case that ACTUALLY makes it public will be awesome. Until then anyone who points to the sky and shouts "it's an alien ship" for anything that moves, is detracting from the true search and study of this phenomena.

I have seen this show several times. Do not assume because I wish to bring to attention a very pertinent issue we have to deal with in this community(in fact an issue Mr. Pope brings up several times) that I did/have not read or watched the articles or videos provided. This is how the drama starts. Do you honestly believe I, or anyone for that matter here, think the people who come here mislabel UFO's on purpose to mislead? No of course not. Misidentification occurs constantly, because people do not have the skills or knowledge to ascertain the difference between genuine UFO's (not aliens, as UFO means unidentified flying object, not alien ship) and normal things that seem strange. With the level of CG now available there are many deliberate hoaxes, which catch the people susceptable to misidentification. I personally have made this error myself seeing something I thought was genuine which turned out to be something completely mundane. It happens, no shame in that when we learn to correctly identify strange things. Problems arise when we have people who are witnesses to something they do not understand and claim it alien craft when it has been proven to be another strange occurance or a hoax. The fervor for everyone to have their own genuine experience leads to people forcing their desire of an event to be something it is not so that they too could have "seen my family from the stars".

We are supposed to be working together to uncover truth and we find that it ends up becoming ego battles about who is right and who is wrong. When something is proven a hoax or proven to not be alien craft, to have those things still fed around the community of those awakening is completely irresponsible and detrimental to our cause to prove to those who do not see, that there really is something going on.

That said, I only watched the first min of this vid and remembered that I had seen it before. I am not saying in any of this that the information in this particular film is false or hoaxed or anything of the sort, as I have watched so many of these films so many times I do not recall moment for moment the content of each 1-12 hour long documentary I watch. I even buckled down to watch this huge like 70 part nassim haramein series, each vid being 10 mins long.

If only 1 case is true thats great, it's the 1000 others that some people claim are true but are not that make people laugh at us and make fun of us and say we wear tin foil hats and whatever other nonsense people throw at us. The problem with religions and spiritual groups is the lack of desire to actually prove the truth and it all comes back to "faith" which requires no evidence and serves the cause of awakening those who do not see in no actual beneficial way whatsoever.
3smn7ct05z5dx May 12, 2012 at 2:30am

Taken from the description of the video and very pertinent to those who claim to see things.

" 95% of UFO sightings are false, resulting either from misidentification or deliberate hoaxes" the other 5% are still very important, however when the 95% are claimed as the 5% we have problems.

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