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  Demi (Nova) February 19, 2013 at 3:58pm

  Even though your comment covers fragmentation in a vague way, I respect your knowledge for this subject. Your comment, in my opinion, is an easy way to explain fragmentation not only to yourself but others as well, which is very helpful. Thank you for sharing <3 <3
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  lalit February 18, 2013 at 8:03am

  Aren't we a fragment of the WHOLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just a curious thought.
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  tertiusgaudens February 18, 2013 at 12:23am

  Your observation is correct, alas, you miss mentioning any approach explaining genuine origins, and this is what I did: a fractured world approcach of the western mind finds it´s correspondence in fractured world- and self- perceptions by losing holistic approaches. This unfolds in manyfold directions, be it traumatic, from ignorance or from rebellion - either way. We are born in such mess, and that not without any reason. Fragmentation is essence of dual or polar perception modes. And you can´t simply flee it by any esoteric hocus pocus. Actually you can never fully get rid of it, for you are part of a fragmentation culture. But you can start healing by undergoing a process of awakening and awareness - that gives you access to revelations otherwise remaining hidden.
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    Geo:) > tertiusgaudens February 18, 2013 at 12:58am

    I find its kind of like breathing. .

    . . where you must breath in to align and re-align. . so you can breath out. . to expand and journey outward/beyond. . then breath in etc etc. .

    this the cycle/recycle of constantly cleaning/healing from fragmentation of going "outward" or growing. . going beyond etc. . like getting dirty etc :)). . .  is always how I view/feel it xD. . ahem ;D

    I am sure we have the ability to regenerate ourselfs ongoingly in this form of a fashion. . from day to day, breath to breath ;D. . hence the many forms of meditation.

    awesome comments you add into the awesomeness-stew by the way, my German man :)
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      tertiusgaudens > Geo:) February 18, 2013 at 2:23am

      Actually I find no access in the realm of healing by looking upon a "wholesome role model" like Buddha or Jesus or any imagination of wholeness I can grasp. I think part of my fragmentation doesn´t allow me to cling losely to such role models - they don´t encourage me, but push me away...

      I deeply like fragmanted persons with courage to live and thrive. And I´m attracted by fragmented people who dare to remain silent instead of find excses of their fragmentation.

      I think - and that helped me a lot - that letting go as it is momentarily is often a thing which I have no difficulties with, and this is ok for me. Thus I have become a lover of fragmnented humans, and no angel might have experiences humans experience in their fragmented limitation. A dirty rat and cock roach, he might have a little love, just a little bit, which even in her tininess is in fact a hologram of the whole...

      Thus the fragmented is representimng the whole - not as achievement of having overcome it, but as symbol of the big in the broken...and as symbol of a healing love...
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  Solarkid February 17, 2013 at 10:38pm

  The way souls reproduce?
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    tertiusgaudens > Solarkid February 17, 2013 at 10:43pm

    ...by being forced either by joy or sadness
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  tertiusgaudens February 17, 2013 at 10:19pm

  An actual image of soul fragmantation you see in this forum.

  For reasons of 1. freedom, 2. illustration, 3. didactical efforts many people in here act as if there is a general soul fragmentation as a basement which appears as a general challenge of human existence.

  Thus the general approach of human knowledge has systemic structure which is fragmented and leads to fragmentation. A more comprehensive attempt to transcend any fragmentation would be a holistic approach and appears impossible in this world - it contradicts our experiences, we need fragmantation in order to not lose our minds. Fragmentation is our kind of encountering reality we think is necessary because we fear wholeness. To say it short - a soul fragmentation is an exact external mirroring of our mental encountering of reality by believing we need to fragment and distinguish reality in order to get knowledge.

  And the second insight: being caught in such mind set it is almost impossible to recognize own soul fragmentations. A healing way starts with one simple thing: stop the compulsive way of knowledge (which comes from and leads to fragementation) and get aware what happens. And doubt the paradigm of fragmentation by thinking in wholeness.

  More than 2000 years ago Platon used something what is called MAIEUTICS or midwifery in order to give birth thoughts people have. Platon believed that people have already all knowledge, but it lies hidden under a hughe pile of debris. Maieutics in questioning helps people to REMEMBER their knowledge. And here you have an answer on why our modern approach of fragmentation is something leading to a dead end street.finally. Generally natural science and math are not very much loved by the public. Can you, by the way, say me the meaning of Euler`s number e?

  Well, that´s the basics - fragmentation coming from fragmentation leads to fragmentation and finds it´s external expressions. By getting aware you begin to understand and start a journey of healing. You will be amazed how deep the rabbit hole goes, and you will eventually not find any end. Awakening in awareness is the key, and each way begins with a first step. In this regard theoretical considerations might be of deeper interest, but do not recognize the basic pattern of soul fragmentation - unless you become aware.

  Greetings from Germany....
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    Demi (Nova) > tertiusgaudens February 19, 2013 at 3:52pm

    This is an amazing way of explaining fragmentation. Thank you for your wonderful explanation. <3
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    Lisafer > tertiusgaudens February 18, 2013 at 2:31am

    Succinct way to put a difficult subject, well done :)