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  Marique November 2, 2009 at 6:54pm

  Great post Cmdr. Lyur, for making people stop and think about things. I agree with most everything you said. I have my own opinion about Wingmakers, which is irrelevant so I will spare everyone my comments about the veracity or not of Wingmakers. I just hopped in here to share a very good link about the whole Is Wingmakers Real topic, which I consider very good source material, believe it or not, its anyone's option. Here is the link: http://www.projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html.
  I found it most informative about a topic that not everyone may be well versed on, I am not, that is for sure.....just found this site very eye opening for me. Judge it yourself. Enjoy.
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  promiseddreams November 2, 2009 at 3:21pm

  Hi, this is Auri, very new to the forum (she says as she is in full motion of jumping in with both feet...) this happens to be one of my "BIG" buttons to push when trying to figure out how to enlighten (oh dear that might be a pun) the light worker community. We tend to be very open and very closed all in one single breath - open to new and interesting research or ideas and very guarded of those beliefs we've gathered over the years holding dear.
  
  As to the "New Age Song" (I like that term :-) ) the test of the day (or perhaps this lifetime) it to learn to trust our voice within, our intuition without question. What better way to teach than to make us pay attention! I would guess that at a minimum, 50% (if not more) of the information and "enlightened teachers" out there are bogus. If one was to consider that information that is only partly true the numbers would be considerably higher. As a norm, the spin doctors operate on the scale of 90 to 97% of "truth" and I do use that word with some trepidation, the rest being flat out spin. Enough truth to make us believe, enough spin have us questioning said truth.
  
  As to those that do the reporting, I have no doubts that there are those that are sincere in their efforts to bring forward the truth in their reporting. Just as there are those that will work their hardest at twisting each word to fit into their very distorted and dark truths. Both or all, still have one common denominator, the spin doctors and their puppet masters.
  
  Back to the original thought, we here on the ground and those upstairs still have to hone and trust their inside voice to the point that it gives us without any doubts what it is Creator Spirit knows to be true. With time, the "one small voice" within becomes the lion's roar, there is no confusion or doubt. We see the truth of a channel (and to my way of thinking, there are very very few channels that are totally clear), the truth of a religious thought or belief, the truth of "ritualistically abused survivor's" story about what the Illuminati are capable of, the truth of a news reporters story.
  
  It is a scary world out there, some of those claiming to be the "most" enlightened are those that have such closed minds and such super egos that I don't understand how they could have such a large following of people that move right on into the crowd mentality and do not question these "teachers" - the "what in the world is this guy on????!", becomes "well, he/she is the enlightened one, so I must be wrong" - they have totally ignored the lesson! When said enlightened ones speak with disdain, or speak down to their "flock" it is a pretty good warning sign that something is wrong. When said enlightened ones are all airy fairy and "it isn't my place to tell you want to think" over and over and over again, something is wrong.
  
  I'd much rather hear a person speak their truth, and leave it at that - our part is to listen and then listen within.
  
  That said....
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    Marique > promiseddreams November 2, 2009 at 6:30pm

    EXCELLENT response Promisedream. We hope to hear more from you. You stated exactly just what I was thinking, I so agree with everything you said and cannot add a thing...which is unusual for me, haha. Bravo. Great insights.
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  Mar Duc Tov October 31, 2009 at 1:45am

  Before I comment on this by Cmdr. Lyur......I just wish it known to all that I hold him in the highest regard and in a heartbeat would recommend to all his Galactic readings of which many years ago i had done by him for myself....that being said I have spent years researching and merging with the Wingmakers and have concluded that they are real....and in perfect alignment with the Command ..of which if you believe the Wingmakers are fake and made up so too must you be open to the notion that Ashtar and his Command are but a figment of someone's active imagination also .......but do not take my Ed Wolfe's or Cmdr.Lyur's word for it....decide for yourself as in Diversity We discover Union......www.wingmkers.com
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