Now that the silly season of blah blah politics is upon us Mitt's Mormon beliefs will be in the media cross-hairs but did you know Barry's dad had at least two wives?
I agree with you Marianinia, I do not judge them because it is not my place to judge them, let each person worry about their own spiritual matters and just love and accept each other as sovereign human beings that they are.. If it works for them then I say bravo. I know myself well enough to know that I could not live that way, not due to any moral judgement at all, it is just not something I could comfortably do due to my personality and knowing my limitations. I never was comfortable with some of the morality rules that have been forced on society and I totally believe that people can love, truly love, more than just one person in a lifetime and in different ways for different reasons, and it is sad that society chooses that a person must love and express love with just one person, and the whole concept has been passed on for generation after generation. Look at the divorce statistics, it is a concern and perhaps a commentary on artificial rules and mores that are enforced on people. Maybe it is unnatural to be expected to love and express love with only one person. People grow, people change, and peoples' wants and needs change over a lifetime. Sometimes marriage can become an imposed prison for some. There is nothing wrong with people making commitments to others and it is nobody's business what commitments one chooses to make. Love and light to you and to all.
I always wonder why polygamy usually pops up in people's minds when there's talking about Mormons. It's quite funny to me.
Although I'm not a Mormon, I have spent nearly a year talking to Mormon missionaries and attending their church gatherings in my own country (Belgium) to explore their religion and learn (as I have done with other religions too - I guess I like to gather knowledge and compare).
And yes, I have touched the question of polygamy too, so I can assure you that present-day Mormons are not into polygamy at all. They see their marriage as sacred and for all eternity. Polygamy is a thing from the Mormon past.
A very small percentage of Mormons still have polygamous marriages, but those who do are a splinter group from the mainstream and their practises are not tolerated by the governing Mormon body. They split off and created their own church.
I am neutral to the concept on polygamy. It's not something that resonates with me, but by all means, let those who want to live that way, just do it. If all involved are happy in such arrangement, then let it be.
Love and Light :-)
Pet Rock > RavenwallsdotterApril 25, 2012 at 12:55am
One wife is enough-I'm sure most women would say one husband is enough-thanks for the information about mainstream Mormons-do they really believe their core forefathers were from an other planet/
I think anyone in the business of controlling what others do when it doesn't really involve their own personal life are trying to manipulate their reality to make themselves feel better about their own.
In regard to the Mormon religion, I have no problem with the polygamist aspect, the problem I have is that it is still a religion that will control what people do and think. You don't see many women in that religion having multiple husbands. It's still built upon a foundation that has become archaic and out-dated, similar to how our consciousness is being re-wired.
These constructs and our DNA have things like jealousy, judgement, racism and other hard-coded "programs" that are being re-written and upgraded.
Change is inevitable. We are the Future. Embrace it now and go with the flow. :)
Isn't it nice that people will get to love as many people as their heart desire, and not restraining themselves into just one? One of many reasons of heartache is forcing oneself to just love One, which is crazzy. As Jesus repeatedly preached, "Love one another!"
Since no one "owns" his or her partner!
Jealousness is very untypical for me.
yes, being a possession like a material object? no wonder people get tired of being one. They watch too much movies like twilight!
Ha ha Rosie for the typing snafu, I noticed but was not going to say anything, lol. I am not sure how I feel about polygamy really. I think I would not be one to want to share my guy with another woman willingly, somehow it would make me feel like less vital a part of the man's life and affections....that is just me, I have always been a very insecure person about myself.
I certainly would never want to have two husbands, lol, they are just too much work and aggravation, haha. That is why I am single again never to remarry and very happy and much less tired and stressed and feeling at last like I am the master of my own life now. My ideal is having someone I truly care about and being in a committed relationship, but not married or living under the same roof.
I watched many episodes of a show about a five women married to the same man out in Utah somewhere and I certainly could not live like those women do, and as for the husband, I am sure having to deal with five women's hormones and cycles must be like creeping through a mine field, and cannot understand why a man would want to have so many demands on him as a provider of 5 wives and a slew of kids, other than of course the given that men like a lot of sex and having just one partner can be boring I am sure...being a man and all, and must be one hell of an ego things having a virtual harem at his beck and call, but the scheduling of cannubial bliss must be a true challenge. The whole concept just does not appeal to me one bit. I make no judgements on any of them of a moral nature however. Everyone has their own destinies to fulfill and their own moral compasses and I totally am supportive of someone doing what they feel compelled to do and what is right for them. I wonder how the situation impacts the many children of their unions however, although kids are very resilient, and in a way it might be really cool having that many Mommys to come running, etc. but I wonder if it is strange for the kids living in a society where polygamy is illegal, I wonder whether it makes them insecure or feel like they themselves are somehow tainted or are insecure talking about their home situation....maybe not though, the kids today are far more adaptable than in the years go by it seems..
Sorry for wandering a little off topic here but it is an interesting situation to ponder...
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I agree with you Marianinia, I do not judge them because it is not my place to judge them, let each person worry about their own spiritual matters and just love and accept each other as sovereign human beings that they are.. If it works for them then I say bravo. I know myself well enough to know that I could not live that way, not due to any moral judgement at all, it is just not something I could comfortably do due to my personality and knowing my limitations. I never was comfortable with some of the morality rules that have been forced on society and I totally believe that people can love, truly love, more than just one person in a lifetime and in different ways for different reasons, and it is sad that society chooses that a person must love and express love with just one person, and the whole concept has been passed on for generation after generation. Look at the divorce statistics, it is a concern and perhaps a commentary on artificial rules and mores that are enforced on people. Maybe it is unnatural to be expected to love and express love with only one person. People grow, people change, and peoples' wants and needs change over a lifetime. Sometimes marriage can become an imposed prison for some. There is nothing wrong with people making commitments to others and it is nobody's business what commitments one chooses to make. Love and light to you and to all.
I always wonder why polygamy usually pops up in people's minds when there's talking about Mormons. It's quite funny to me.
Although I'm not a Mormon, I have spent nearly a year talking to Mormon missionaries and attending their church gatherings in my own country (Belgium) to explore their religion and learn (as I have done with other religions too - I guess I like to gather knowledge and compare).
And yes, I have touched the question of polygamy too, so I can assure you that present-day Mormons are not into polygamy at all. They see their marriage as sacred and for all eternity. Polygamy is a thing from the Mormon past.
A very small percentage of Mormons still have polygamous marriages, but those who do are a splinter group from the mainstream and their practises are not tolerated by the governing Mormon body. They split off and created their own church.
I am neutral to the concept on polygamy. It's not something that resonates with me, but by all means, let those who want to live that way, just do it. If all involved are happy in such arrangement, then let it be.
Love and Light :-)
One wife is enough-I'm sure most women would say one husband is enough-thanks for the information about mainstream Mormons-do they really believe their core forefathers were from an other planet/
I think anyone in the business of controlling what others do when it doesn't really involve their own personal life are trying to manipulate their reality to make themselves feel better about their own.
In regard to the Mormon religion, I have no problem with the polygamist aspect, the problem I have is that it is still a religion that will control what people do and think. You don't see many women in that religion having multiple husbands. It's still built upon a foundation that has become archaic and out-dated, similar to how our consciousness is being re-wired.
These constructs and our DNA have things like jealousy, judgement, racism and other hard-coded "programs" that are being re-written and upgraded.
Change is inevitable. We are the Future. Embrace it now and go with the flow. :)
Me & my ex tried a polygamous relationship... it failed in the end.
She compared me to her new lover, and how I wasn't to yo her standards....
Just saying...
That must have been tough-I wouldn't have even tried it
Monogamy is nothing but a relict of primative instincts of the stone age.
I'd prefer to live in a society in which (sexual) relationsships are non-exlclusive.
Since no one "owns" his or her partner!
Jealousness is very untypical for me.
the polyamory relationship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory
Isn't it nice that people will get to love as many people as their heart desire, and not restraining themselves into just one? One of many reasons of heartache is forcing oneself to just love One, which is crazzy. As Jesus repeatedly preached, "Love one another!"
yes, being a possession like a material object? no wonder people get tired of being one. They watch too much movies like twilight!
OOOps sorry....I read the word Mormon as Moron (not judging honest!) ;-D
Apparently it works both ways although I know of no examples of women having more than one husband (strange Huh!)
According to the merriam-webster dictionary
Polygamy...marriage in which a spouse of either sex may have more than one mate at the same time.
The very concept of polygamy....blows away the truth of twin flame soul mate connection!
Religion....you just gotta laugh _/|\_
Ha ha Rosie for the typing snafu, I noticed but was not going to say anything, lol. I am not sure how I feel about polygamy really. I think I would not be one to want to share my guy with another woman willingly, somehow it would make me feel like less vital a part of the man's life and affections....that is just me, I have always been a very insecure person about myself.
I certainly would never want to have two husbands, lol, they are just too much work and aggravation, haha. That is why I am single again never to remarry and very happy and much less tired and stressed and feeling at last like I am the master of my own life now. My ideal is having someone I truly care about and being in a committed relationship, but not married or living under the same roof.
I watched many episodes of a show about a five women married to the same man out in Utah somewhere and I certainly could not live like those women do, and as for the husband, I am sure having to deal with five women's hormones and cycles must be like creeping through a mine field, and cannot understand why a man would want to have so many demands on him as a provider of 5 wives and a slew of kids, other than of course the given that men like a lot of sex and having just one partner can be boring I am sure...being a man and all, and must be one hell of an ego things having a virtual harem at his beck and call, but the scheduling of cannubial bliss must be a true challenge. The whole concept just does not appeal to me one bit. I make no judgements on any of them of a moral nature however. Everyone has their own destinies to fulfill and their own moral compasses and I totally am supportive of someone doing what they feel compelled to do and what is right for them. I wonder how the situation impacts the many children of their unions however, although kids are very resilient, and in a way it might be really cool having that many Mommys to come running, etc. but I wonder if it is strange for the kids living in a society where polygamy is illegal, I wonder whether it makes them insecure or feel like they themselves are somehow tainted or are insecure talking about their home situation....maybe not though, the kids today are far more adaptable than in the years go by it seems..
Sorry for wandering a little off topic here but it is an interesting situation to ponder...