what the hell is that leads to hell?

A christian philosopher was asked what God was doing before he created the heavens an earth. He replied that he was busy creating hell for those who spy into mysteries.So he is saying that before God created you, he created a place to torment you forever. It is also said that the love of this God endures forever as well! You were born already a sinner. So the guilt that you will be punnished for seems to be the guilt of being a man. It is also said that this same God came in form of Jesus to save you from this very same fire he created for you!God saving you from his own wrath that he would punnish you for being how he created you by letting you to kill the God only for him to resurect back in 3 days???Is it save to say then 'God' diserved that punnishment in galvary for planning a terible thing to innocent men?Some say; could the devil have done any worse?When you point to the christian philosopher that God's foreknowledge of who will go to hell is mutualy incompartible with freewill, he says that the mere logical possibility and not REAL possibility is enough to insure that freewill is at work. However, when you ask them why God created a world wherein REAL possibility of evil exists, they say that an otherwise world would not make people exersise their freewills!!

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turtles June 25, 2014 at 11:59pm

There is the belief that we are in fact sent somewhere after we die, maybe we are not sent anywhere but vibrational frequencies match up and that is where we go. I was watching a Tony Stubbs interview and he was talking about a soul elevator that goes up the soul plane. This elevator will stop and let the individual out when the the energies match the heart and what is beyond the door.......which i thought was very interesting......
turtles June 25, 2014 at 1:41am

sin means missing the mark................ in the bible wrath is just like karma......you do harm to another and you reap the consequences within you which is like a hell on earth. i think it is because we are going against love, which is in fact our true nature. i watched a carolyn myss video and she was saying our egos are attracted to bad stuff so to speak, while our souls are attracted to good, and there in is the kicker
- turtles > turtles June 25, 2014 at 2:11am
  
  if you have a conscious and you steal you feel that within you as you know you are doing something you should not be doing......that is hell.....now did god create that hell?? did god create hell? dunno.....i do think that god created the conscious..............until you clean it up and get into integrity around it you might continued to be tormented by the experience, which is what lower vibrational beings love........

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