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  Rune. H November 22, 2011 at 12:22am

  I am a military pasifist, but a galactic activist...lol

  Eart has two months, but their 3-d physical plane is damaged. When we have entered 5th dim we will see them. Isn`t the moon a dead planetoid that a galactic race used as a base.
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  Darth Vindex November 21, 2011 at 11:02pm

  Well inactivisim is all about ´not caring´. I´m not an inactivist. What I am saying is , that Earth has no natural satellite. That means THERE ARE NO MONTHS!!
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    Vagelis4VP > Darth Vindex November 21, 2011 at 11:26pm

    yes.ok ..i understand where u are coming from..but when i point out "i dont care'... i dont come from the perspective, "i am a heartless zombie just walking around"...

    i want to point out that all this stuff makes no difference in my life right here and now on this Earth... just like if Jesus ever existed, or Buddha ever existed or not...all these dont have any impact on how to live my life upon this Earth... they are irrelevant... even if the Moon is artificial or not, or if there are no months or years, doesnt change a bit my approach to life, or my experience... these are just like...how to say.... 'Encyclopedic Knowledge"!

    sure, it is not bad to have some "Encyclopedic Knowledge".. but its not the "big goal" in life...

    its an interesting post..but i dont say, i believe it or not, and neither im "burning" to find the truth for such kind of things..("Encyclopedic Knowledge" kind).
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  Darth Vindex November 21, 2011 at 1:20am

  Vagelis I am trained in logic and the analysis and pursuit of truth. Yet I am flawed like everyone else , like the world - imperfect , etc. That´s because perfection is unknowable - the ultimate objective of perfection is it being unknowable.

  In logic , we´re taught to confront things which to many of us feel terrible to face , even terrifying with terrifying being beyound terrible.

  A good example is how the Establishment wants you to view racism - create a simple , valid argument for your case on a particular race and you discover the real terror behind racism - illogic and why illogic can make racism such a terror in society.

  So look at the Moon.

  You are taught to assume since childhood that there is a Moon.

  But after going to a simple logic course you discover there are alternative claims which make the official account for what the Moon is look patently absurd!

  I went to three or even four if I remember correctly logic courses at the University where I do my studies.

  We were taught that sometimes some things cannot be doupted , but that we´re ultimately unable to prove anything by the use of logical analysis per ce.

  So we require intuition to lead us to the truth.

  And when the truth comes - at first it often seems terrifying.

  Once fully confronted the truth becomes understandable.

  For me it was terrifying to discover that the Earth has no natural Moon , but eventually I got over it.

  Tomorrow , the idea of the Earth having a natural Moon will be laughed at as much as it was during the Middle Ages.

  Many years ago we were told about stories written in the 1800´s and the 1900´s about people going to the Moon by aid of spirits - but those were officially admitted to be just that - fictious stories.

  Who was one of the greatest and most beloved proponents of the Moon being real and claiming to have visited it during the 20th century?

  George Adamski - an astronomer believed to have had interesting connections with the military industrial complex.

  If the Moon was real , Adamski should surely have visited it. But even now he´s being promoted as being something of a truther , increasingly by mainstream figures.

  Even the nonsential claim that the Moon causes people to become werewolves was disproved over the centuries and the truth about the ability of sound effects to alter human DNA was uncovered in novels such as The Howling when DNA research was becoming officially acceptable by the Mainstream Media , or to repeat it ´officially acceptable´.

  Think about this.

  You´re told that there is a Moon so you naturally assume upon yourself being merely told so there is - just like you´re told there is an Illuminati , that there is a homo sapiens sapiens , etc.

  Suddenly you discover the truth THERE REALLY IS NO MOON ENCIRCLING THE EARTH , ARTIFICIAL OR NON ARTIFICIAL.

  So you ask yourself; what is that thingy which was used on all the models designed to create the Moon Moon?

  Then you discover that somebody had access to photographic and video equipment prior to the launching of the Appollo missions , who knew about the NOAA UFO thingy decades before it´d be photographed by advanced , modern satellites.

  But Vagelis , if you require a Mainstream Media and an Establishment to keep you happy living in a Moon dream , so be it. The choise is your´s.
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    Vagelis4VP > Darth Vindex November 21, 2011 at 1:31am

    ..i dont understand what all these that u say here, have anything to do with my statement that i dont care who build, or did not build the Moon...

    just like i dont care if there is an illuminati or not...or if there is any sapiens sapiens or not... or if there are any 3 legged beings walking the Earth...or not!
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  Vagelis4VP November 21, 2011 at 1:05am

  to tell u the truth, i dont really care who build it...

  can the Moon have any effect on my life, or awareness right now on this Earth??,,,for this, yes i sure Do care!!!
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  Darth Vindex November 21, 2011 at 12:50am

  Who built the Moon? Mankind did. Christopher Knight and pals are such perfect examples of Moon believers. They assume that there is a real Moon thingy out there when there obviously isn´t!

  Let´s make a quick look at all the recent ´discoveries´ and ´announcements´made publicly about the Moon being real.

  The magic all began sometime after Galileo Galilei began to make drawings of something which the Establishment later labelled the Moon , and before that there had been numerous drawings made by similarly minded individuals who had secret society connections.

  In the middle ages if you proclaimed openly you believed in the Moon you got laughed at.

  Words like ´being mooned´and ´being a lunatic´were born.

  The Church decided to create a problem - the myth that werewolves become such because the Moon is fulled or because they made a pact with the Devil.

  When it became common knowledge that lycanthropy is caused by people deciding to transform into wolves , mentally , emotionally or even physically , it became common knowledge that the Moon doesn´t turn people into wolves.

  So the lie that the Moon is controlling women´s menstrual cycles was created.

  When that didn´t work anymore , the Establishment decided to announce that the Moon is evil but offer no explanation for why.

  When that didn´t work , the Establishment decided to announce publicly that the Moon is an alien spaceship which is also an evil alien spaceship.

  How did the Establishment do this?

  Simple. They required ´alternative media experts´ lunar research to declare the Moon to be an ancient , evil alien spaceship.

  According to ´official accounts´the Moon entered the solar system something like 11,000 years ago.

  Before that period there were other Moons already available , each had somehow fallen on the Earth , probably by being pulled towards it by advanced gravitational field manipulation technology.

  This theory is known sometimes as Horbinger´s Theory of Fire and Ice.

  The Establishment feels very threatened by this theory so they declared it´s mostly a Nazi ´paranoia thingy´created to manipulate and mass indoctrinate Germans during WWII.

  But that didn´t work - the Germans still today in many places despite it´s not officially told so do believe in the Fire and Ice scenario of many moons having encircled the Earth in ancient times - well my apologies for refering to ´many´so let´s say ´several´or something like 4 to 5 in number.

  But something did enter our planet´s vicinity nearly 11,500 years ago.

  There are references to this object - but it´s often mistranslated , probably deliberately so by the Mainstream Media and the Establishment , into ´the Moon´, because they require a Moon to be there to feed the masses with mass paranoia of there being some kind of Moon thingy.

  According to the Vedas and other accounts , a mysterious , large , cylindrical object or ship of some sort entered the Earth´s vicinity , stationed itself near the planet´s orbit , and one day became invisible.

  It was theorized that a cloaking device or devices was being used on board the craft to make it invisible.

  Ancient accounts tell of a worldwide flood , and people having dreams of large masses of UFO´s arriving before the worldwide flood arrived.

  Note the following response in an interview with both authors; ´In Who Built The Moon? We explain that we could not come to any other conclusion than the Moon is artificial´. Ok , what do they require for the Moon to be artificial? The Establishment´s ´view´, or ´Because it is certain that it is 4,6 billion years old (who says so? The Establishment!) that raises some interesting points´- including the possibility that it is in fact an Establishment lie and not a real thingy!!

  Then they declare ´the question of why the Moon had to be built is easy to answer; to produce all life , especially humans´. That is a flat out lie!

  Life has existed on this planet for supposedly longer time than the Moon thingy , and if there was no Moon there in the first place a few hundred years ago - sorry fellas , there must be another more sensible explanation for the emergence of life on Earth.

  Obviously Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas are either deceiving themselves or being deceitful when they proclaim that they think they know the moon is artificial.

  Since I already have a copy of this book I know perfectly well what I am talking about.

  IN FACT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BOOK THEY NEVER SAY WHY THEY THINK THE MOON IS ARTIFICIAL.

  Instead they talk about this being a hypothesis of their´s , and thus not the truth itself.

  Yet how can it be a hypothesis when they declare it to be the truth during interviews taken with them by members of the alternative media?

  And they´re also both Freemasons!

  They have written quite a few books about Freemasonry , but I am not calling them liars because they´re Freemasons.

  I am calling them people who have joined the team who decided to sell us another lie about the Moon - that the Moon is artificial ´because it is a spaceship´.

  They say that it´s ´because it is a good spaceship´, but the Establishment wants the spaceship to be evil , so they bring in David Icke who cocoins phrases like ´moonopoly´to frighten the masses of Britain into thinking that the reason for why the Moon is out there is because it´s an evil spaceship.

  Then we hear on local radio news that this ´evil spaceship´thingy is sending us evil vibes to keep us all entrapped.

  Ok , my question to all these so - called experts on these evil vibes and this good / bad Moon thingy is; CAN ANY OF YOU BRING ME AN IDIOTA OF PROOF TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR SO - CALLED ´HYPOTHESES?´.

  Obviously not a titter.

  Why? Because the Earth has no natural satellite known as the Moon. There are multiple objects and crafts visiting the planet each day , and many being produced by the minds of Earthmen themselves , as we all know who have accounts on this page , and there is at least one cylindrical object which looks like a natural moon would look like if it had been carved from the inside out.

  But that thing was visible when photographed for only a few minutes , despite I suspect it´s really been there all the time and can in fact been photographed because the infrared imagery interferes with it´s cloaking device´s ability to keep it cloaked.

  Notice also the fact that all these accounts of the Moon being supposedly an ancient , alien spacecraft appear right in the middle of the period we used to be told was known commonly as the Space Age!

  The ´theory´that the Moon is an ancient alien spaceship becomes ´common knowledge´once the Establishment through it´s ´official alternative media liaisons´ decides to announce to the masses of the world , that that is ´in fact´what it is.

  Well if that was really the case there´d be no need to ´confirm´it in the first place.

  Even today we´re being brought new and more ´discoveries´supposedly ´proving´that a new space city has been found on the Moon and that a new spaceship has been discovered on the Moon and so on.

  But there is one interesting observation which has often been mislabeled as a spaceship visiting the Moon.

  And that is , that an object looking like that thingy that people are in when they go up into the air in a balloon was noticed underneath the moon travelling right along it´s direction.

  Impossible - unless we´re talking about those tons of balloon thingies put out there designed to orbit the Earth at certain strategic points and then kept in suspended animation.

  This ´object´was discovered by an amateur astronomer in an age when everyone knew that no space cities were being found on the Moon.

  So all talk about there being no space cities on the Moon is Flim Flam , because the official story of what the Moon supposedly is is Flim Flam!

  What does knowledge of the ´fact´that the Moon is supposed to be a gigantic , evil alien spaceship , a death star bigger than Pluto promote?

  The Star Wars Programme , or the weaponization of Space.

  Create a problem - the Moon. Declare it to be evil to demand public reaction. Then declare war on the Moon (Human Race Get Off Your Knees the Lion Sleeps No More).

  What are governments around the world doing today around the clock every day? Talking about evil alien invasions and allowing the mainstream media to request experts in economics to declare that invasion by space aliens is required to help the global economy to recover on a global level.

  Earthmen were quite capable of creating their Moon thingy , so only they can break their self - created Moon spell.
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  Rune. H November 20, 2011 at 11:36pm

  Plejare Semjase said to Billy Meier that Earth is 648 000 000 000 yo..

  Iliuka (Part of Uriel) say that Miother Earth has always been..
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    Darth Vindex > Rune. H November 21, 2011 at 12:51am

    Of course , but eventually poor lady Semjase couldn´t even prove she existed but to a handful of few people.