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  Astarael February 24, 2010 at 5:09pm

  There are 3 types,
  Sheep, Shepherds and Wise Men.
  Shepherds Lead, Sheep Follow and Wise Men, Get out of the way.
  Whatever works for you.
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  3rfl3nfqndi4s February 23, 2010 at 11:09pm

  I agree with you, Ann. Where's the respect? That's an ingredient that is hugely missing today. I see it all the time in this city. I am so thankful that I have finally come to the conclusion that how people treat me.....they are responsible for. How I treat others is my responsibility. We ALL get payback for our thoughts, words and deeds whether aware of it or not. My pain is for the ignorant who don't have a clue why things are happening to them the way they are.
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  Vagelis4VP February 23, 2010 at 6:36pm

  Well said..this can fit well to the discussion ...."What is ego and why do we hate it so?",
  in the section "Guidance & Inspiration"....
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  3rfl3nfqndi4s February 23, 2010 at 4:15am

  Why, thank ya' kindly, Shelly. Coming from you I consider that high praise. In answer to your question, the posts that are getting the most reader attention remain on the front page, and those which are not getting as much attention slowly fade onto the second, third, fourth, etc. pages. :(
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  3rfl3nfqndi4s February 23, 2010 at 4:10am

  And, you know what, Tom? If I chose to be offended.....it wouldn't be your fault, would it? It would be my choice.
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  Amelia February 22, 2010 at 10:09pm

  "Is this not more of our "conditioning", that we NEED government, NEED someone to govern us?"
  
  Yes, I think we have been conditioned to believe that we can't get along without them.
  
  "Why?"
  
  Self preservation.
  
  "From the Webster's Collegiate Dictionary - Tenth Edition - "from Latin gubernare - Gr. Kybernan - meaning to control; Latin - mente - mind;"
  
  Surprising. I did not know that.
  
  "I don't NEED man's laws, for I am familiar with Universal Laws and their application."
  
  But we do need a way to apply these Universal Laws... It would seem that instant sovereignty without some sort of fair system of trade and resources might cause more problems than solve.
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    3rfl3nfqndi4s > Amelia February 23, 2010 at 11:07pm

    Joram, I'm a little confused about your response. When I said "to a degree", I was referring to your comment about money. All I was saying that it isn't the "money" itself that is the problem. It's people's Love of it and what it buys. Perhaps money has become a TOO convenient tool for barter. If were still using chickens, pigs, fruit and veggies for bartering (or even services) then the "dark hats" would not have so easily taken control.
    
    Perhaps I over-simplify at times?
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    Cedric > Amelia February 23, 2010 at 5:09pm

    I agree people are not ready to live without government. I was just reading about a bunch of people from Belgium doing a test in the USA (manny others have done this test) to see if they would be able to live on Mars or even travel to Mars. It was a disaster, people did not work together had no control over security issues,most of them did not even bother training for this test. I think we live in a world of rebelion that is going the wrong way. People are so negative about top figures or people who have abilities to be leaders that they do not even allow the good leaders to help out. There is no way a world can funcion without somekind of structure and wise people that guide the main stream of the population. I have thought about the politicians like the president and what they go through i for one would not like to be in their shoes. Especially when we live in a Ego world and the Ego is scitsofrenic and by this dualistic by nature. They can never do right to all even if they tried. As for voting,in Belgium voting is mandatory it is the law,if you do not want to vote you can be fined and go to jail,you can also put in a blanc vote,problem is your blanc vote will go to the biggest party...so you still voted. There are a lot of people uot there with great ideas but they are not at the top so the smal waves they provoce do nothing in the big ocean. But i still believe it can get better...maybe not in my lifetime but ...
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      Vagelis4VP > Cedric February 23, 2010 at 6:01pm

      If you ask a politician, he cannot even screw a light-bulb....
      We do not need politicians...everything that has ever made on this planet, was from
      people with technical skills....
      From the man who cleans the street, to the men who build a spaceship....
      All that we have in our houses, our cites, and our transportation were made by people
      with technical knowledge...you yourself are a man of technical knowledge in cooking...
      Many people will say:"But the politicians dont need technical knowledge...they are there for to give orders
      and organize."...
      And i will say:...hahaha...this is just a myth...if you were in a deserted island with Obama who is a politician, Cedric who is a chef, and Joe who has some electrical knowledge....
      they would never ask Obama:"Mr Obama can the electrician fix the electricity here so we can cook???"
      They would say:"Barak!!!...Go and fetch some fish, while i will fix the electricity here, so that Cedric can cook a delicious meal for all of us"!!!
      This is the way to do things....
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        Vagelis4VP > Vagelis4VP February 23, 2010 at 6:17pm

        ...and after we say, that we are heading for Ascension...lol...