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  Nirmama February 21, 2011 at 7:11pm

  You guys are no serious opponents in this discussion. How can you possibly discuss the movie that you haven't seen, nor even read the summary? If you haven't studied Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam, how can you possibly discuss about it? Don't you look ridiculous to yourselves? It is purely transcendental literature, that is: pure spiritual literature, how can you possibly dare to compare it with something as corrupt and rotten as the so-called modern science or human's vivid (sick) imagination? 

  
  Even if we (who try to promote bits of vast knowledge contained in Vedas) gave you the most precise answers, it would mean nothing to you, because you haven't lifted yourself to transcendental platform; you don't even know what it is. You're in such self-denial that you don't even know what is person and personality, so how can we talk about God if you don't know what and who are you? God doesn't want a company of foolish idiots who don't know who they are and what they're doing. I am no better than you, but at least I was smart enough to make effort and do the research; I asked sincerely, and I was given. If you set firm intention now: "I want to know the Absoulte Truth!" - it will be revealed to you in due time if you were dedicated and persistent. I wrote very extensivelly here on AC about universal laws and shared all I acquired about it from my own experience. 

  
  I'm not being offensive unto you, I'm trying to challenge you to start studying those scriptures instead of floating in that sea of endless speculation, i.e. ignorance. So I'll ask you again and again: why the heck don't you wanna KNOW? And I'll repeat: there is everything you ever wanted to know about anything including aliens, advanced technology, creation of universes, nature of them, all densities, dimensions, planets, different beings and their natures, who is who in this or any material cosmic manifestation, and what is what, and what IS and what ISN'T. You're all so fond of speaking and thinking in terms of abundance, aren't you? Well, I tell you now: there is real abundant abundance in incredibly abundant amounts :))
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  Spaceman February 21, 2011 at 3:05pm

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person
  
  
  
  A person (plural: "persons" or "people"; from Latin: persona, meaning "mask")[1] is a human being, or any entity with attributes that constitute personhood. What attributes are recognized as constituting personhood has varied historically and across cultures, and also between different theories and definitions.
  
  Basically a person is a living being or entity with attributes or qualities or excellences.
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    Spaceman > Spaceman February 21, 2011 at 5:03pm

    
    
    Just like some Christians say that Jesus Christ suffered and died for our sins. If that were the case then there would be no more sin at all in the world. But that is not the case -- what Jesus showed was the pathway of taking on and willingness to endure suffering for the sake of others so they might get some benefit .
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  Spaceman February 21, 2011 at 2:26pm

  Reality is a myth. The universe is a myth... Ashtar Command is a myth....Just because one person sees something as a myth does that negate its existence?Space horizons are not unlimited but compared to our human mind capacity they are-- and space is beyond our senses to possibly investigate in full. Am I also a myth and is Commander Lightspeed also a myth?
  Here is an interesting channeling from Lightworkers .org-------
  
  COSMIC AWARENESS explains the "Truth" behind the Ashtar Command.
  17 March 2008 - 8:16pm | Passionate Lion
  To all the my loving friends and clients that constantly ask me..."Jeff, who are Real and who are the False Aliens that seem to be Channeling everywhere"? This Channeling from Cosmic Awareness ( Prime Creator) may provide a greater clarity than I could possibly express.
  
  Remember, my friends... "Believe nothing you read or hear and always doubt...and investigate for yourselves, what is Truth, for you"!
  
  (Channeling begins)
  
  This Awareness indicates that regarding the so called “Space Brothers and the Ashtar Command", in particular, are more fantasy than reality. This Awareness indicates that there were some contacts in the 50's between human types and earthlings and some of these contacts, the extraterrestrials speaking with the humans gave the impression that they were present for the purpose of assisting humanity. This Awareness indicates that this led to many unusual ideas and it was assumed that there was a great command force of extraterrestrials just waiting out there in space, waiting for humanity to evolve sufficiently for them to come in and rapture humanity and help humanity to reach new and greater heights of expression.
  This Awareness indicates that these ideas were projected onto the UFO scene at the time, wherein entities would spot unidentified flying objects and hear stories about extraterrestrials being here for some noble purpose, to assist to put a kind of spiritual and cosmic order to fill in the blanks and missing parts of the situation, so as to help the mind make sense, and in this process, some entities began to channel or pretend to channel in such a way as to promote ideas which included the concept of the Ashtar Command, and this particular channeling became quite popular in its narrow sense, among many who wanted answers and did not particularly need evidence.
  This Awareness indicates there has not yet been any evidence presented that the Ashtar Command exists. There has only been parroting of words about the Ashtar Command and channels, allegedly giving information on the Ashtar Command. This Awareness indicates that this does not mean that entities of extraterrestrial or ultra terrestrial dimension do not communicate with humans, /t is suggesting, however, that the Ashtar Command concept is more fiction than fact.
  
  This Awareness indicates that gradually, the origin of these entities became less in focus and the entities ceased to speak about their coming from Mars or Venus, as the space program began to define the temperatures and natures of those planets, and entities began to realize that those planets were not capable of supporting the human-type life that was attributed to the extraterrestrials whom they represented in their channelings. Gradually, rather than saying they came from Mars or Venus, the extraterrestrials were in spaceships, floating around the earth, waiting for the right time to rescue humanity. This time has gone on for approximately 25 years, these entities still floating up there somewhere, waiting to rescue humanity. This Awareness indicates it would seem that their plans for the rescue were not well thought out, or they have over-extended their time and used an enormous supply of energy and food over the 25 or 30 years, just to waste the time waiting for humanity to reach the time when it should be rescued.
  This Awareness indicates that rather than understand the nature of the phenomena, entities prefer to stick with the information about this so-called Ashtar Command, and the 'space brothers', because it is comforting. It is illogical that they would sit there for some 25 to 40 years waiting for humanity to be ready to be rescued. It is illogical that they would keep a supply of food and fuel constantly circling for that length of time or that they would return to wherever they allegedly came from, and then come back and keep waiting.
  It would seem that if they wanted to rescue humanity they would have made some direct attempt, direct contact rather than holding back and channeling through this person or that person and never letting themselves be seen. This Awareness indicates that the concept of the Ashtar Command and the 'Space Brothers' as presented is another myth.
  This Awareness indicates that It does not mean there is no such thing as extraterrestrials who have an interest in the earth. The Pleiadians are real entities, and they have some interest in the earth, but they are not part of the so-called 'Ashtar Command.' The Vegans and
  the Arcturians and certain of those from Sirius are interested and benevolent and friendly to earthlings. There are also those who are hostile, indifferent to earth, but for personal gain, have an interest in earth. These have been discussed: The Orion Empire, the Reptilian Federation from Draco, and the Zeta Reticuli. These and a few other extraterrestrials have their designs on earth also, but they do not go by the name Ashtar Command, nor do those who are represented as the Ashtar Command ever actually show themselves physically, nor have they ever done anything physically for entities to rescue them from abductions, or to assist them on earth levels, except as might occur for an entity
  This Awareness indicates that if one believes that a kernel of popcorn holds mystical powers, and attempts to do something, that kernel of popcorn can be quite helpful in getting the thing done. Is the kernel of popcorn actually powerful, or is the belief the power that is acting?
  This Awareness indicates that many entities believe in the Ashtar Command and it gives them comfort and strength, just as a child might believe in a security blanket and might feel terrorized and naked without it. The security blanket might help the child through a frightening time or experience, just as the belief in the Ashtar Command could help some entities during their times of crisis.
  This does not mean the security blanket has any mystical power; it simply has a psychological influence because the entity believes in it. In itself, it has nothing but the ability to keep an entity warmer, but the energy attributed to it by the entity who believes in it is the force that gives it mystical power.
  
  This Awareness expresses the energies of Gratitude.
  
  (Channeling ends)
  
  (Note: I have no personal opinions or judgements regarding this issue expressed by Awareness, I am merely a Servant of Awareness passing along the information...for a greater and in-depth understanding of this issue...please go to...www.cosmicawareness.org...you may find your answers there.)
  
  
  
  http://lightworkers.org/node/21825

  http://waiting.It/
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  Rune. H February 20, 2011 at 9:27pm

  I like to think that a person is a spark from the divine good. we are one part of the creation,, Thanks for a good article
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  Nirmama February 20, 2011 at 8:37pm

  little penguin for you, click on the link and enjoy :))

  http://www.paperboy.nl/?PID1=81ER%21UI%5E%2E%5E%40R%3FE%5B%3C%2EDQ%...
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  Nirmama February 20, 2011 at 7:03pm

  Dear folks, you seem to be so discouraged to even allow yourself to accept the possibility that there IS a TRUTH, the Absolute Truth, therefore because you don't know what this Truth is, you artifically tolerate all 'truths', everything and everything as 'truth'. You seem to be afraid to know the Truth about God, Life, Death and everything. You are afraid of the mere possibility of being cheated again, because you already have too many heartaches and you don't want another one, do you? I do understand that. So the best remedy you were able to come up with was to dream more positive dream hoping this bad dream would somehow change or go away. Well, that's only the first step, only the first step.

  
  You are so used to all different kinds of lies and half-lies half-truths that you obviously gave up the mere possibility of the existence of the Absolute Truth. You have been cheated so much and so nasty that you can't even stand it when someone (out of love and compassion) stands up and claims there is such thing as Truth. I can understand that too.
  Dear ones, this is not imposition of 'some' Absolute Truth. Me and some of the members on AC are kindly trying to say this: the Truth and the science of God and science of the Soul is in the Vedas, there is no need to speculate about anything, including past, present, future, aliens, angels, demons, advanced technologies, wars, densities, dimensions and so many other things, all is there, why the heck don't you wanna know???????

  
  But instead of studying complete Vedic literature which is soooo VAST, and might be hard to understand properly, we simply refer to read the essence of the Vedas which is given in a very concentrated way within Bhagavad Gita. Then to inquire deeper, to know more about God, his nature, his activities, his form, his qualities, his pastimes, go and study Srimad Bhagavatam. If you want to know about creation of the universes and how things are going on in there, study Brahma Samhita. You won't find so many details and such vast scientific knowledge anywhere else, I guarantee you! If you read all that and you're still not moved from within, from the center of your HEART which is the seat of your eternal soul, than go back to your business as you always did, you're not ready for it yet. 

  
  Therefore, why do you refuse to take Bhagavad Gita in your hands then? Because you're so addicted to speculation and hollow discusions and you're so used to hear about lies and half-truths to flatter your false ego and feed your illusions and Because you don't want to know the Truth! Well I'm not here to feed your illusions. What are you really interested in? Your interests don't really and seriously revolve around ultimate questions and final destination of your soul, your interests revolve around issues how to get rich, how to make more money, how to improve your sex-life, how to loose weight and so on even though it looks like you're trying to raise your vibration, to help others and Earth.

  
  If you ask me, here is what I'd say: after I exhausted all other possibilites, there was nowhere else to look for the Truth for me anymore, because I've turned every stone and still didn't find what I was looking for, and then I was finally faced with Vedas, in fact with the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, due to exceptional grace and mercy of Him. What I'm trying to say is that you don't need to turn every stone, because the Truth has come to you, in these very words, in this very calling. Recognize the moment of grace because it won't be always present and at hand for you. I wish there was somebody to bother me a bit like this, but there was nobody to challenge me to start studying Vedas and find out WHO is God. You don't have to join any movement, just inquire for yourself, and don't be lazy, that's all. There is no use in discussing like this: start reading Bhagavad Gita and then we'll discuss it, in great joy! Otherwise there's nothing to discuss about.
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  Krishna Kalki February 20, 2011 at 2:05pm
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    Spaceman > Krishna Kalki February 20, 2011 at 2:50pm

    GOD IS A PERSON. That's what the ILLUMINATI want to HIDE!
    Because if God is a person than there is something that everyone needs to find out --- who is God and what is our relationship, what is my relationship?

    The illuminati want to break up our relationship with God and instead give us a troll idol--- material satisfaction-- instead.
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  Spaceman February 20, 2011 at 1:23pm

  Here is some depictions of the Virata Rupa --- Universal Form of God.Thess are descriptions taken from the book the Bhagavad Gita-- the song of God.
  
  This is maha vishnu lying in the causal ocean with countless universes emanating from the pores of His skin.
  The entire manifestation of universes is pushed out during the exhale, then the next cycle is called the inhale or pralaya when they all go back into Him and become reabsorbed.
  
  These are not fanciful creations of imaginations but are an attempt to crystalize images of the unfathomability of the workings of the universal space.
  In order to see such a form as this Krishna -the all pervading cognizant- gave Arjuna divine eyes. Its was too awesome for Arjuna and he prays to please stop this I just want to see you as my friend.
  
  For the universal form is an impersonal feature of the truth and Arjuna preferred the personal aspect of Krishna GOD as a two armed being which he could relate to.