Tree House Table Discussion
By Kibo and the Crew
Jul 14, 2010 - 10:04:04 AM
Ahoye= this came in. still deep in cave until next month or so...will not be heard from much outside of these....love you all...love and light to you all I AM THAT I AM THAT I AM
Kibo[don't mean to be antisocial but what's a hermit to do?]Dabi
Treehouse table discussion.... july 12 > 14
CM: So, anything to say?
K: What's the point? I get it. I thought this thing was about going into the next phase...ascension. stasis, level field, new age, new world...I can see now that the harvest is the main point and everything else is secondary.
Big M: You have a problem with that?
K: not in and of itself. I mean, it is what it is. But if such is the case, I‘ve made huge mistakes in my approach to this. I thought that if you said ‘A', then ‘A' it was. It hadn't occurred to me, at the time that it all depended on us and where we were at as opposed to where it was hoped that we would be.
Big M: So what is the problem?
K: I understand that you want as many as possible to push through and over the line. I think it's ridiculous that the oil spill has caused delay while you wait to see what we will do as a people and wonder why we have still not risen up collectively and do the ‘i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore!' thing. To me, that's just stupid. I understand that you can offer no proof of anything because that it how it has to be, according to the law of one.
People have to be able to choose. But the number of people that are choosing YOU is small and growing very slowly. Immediate and direct concerns will always take precedent and the matrix is just too complex for even the hardiest of souls to find their way up and out of quickly. It takes lifetimes to figure this crap out, so why you're expecting people to wake up and say ‘uh-oh, we're in deep shit now. The gulf is fucked up. Better call God for help and pray that He does'....what exactly? Kill the heathens, the infidels? Smite the evil ones? Which evil ones? This is not supporting oneness in conscious unity. This is exactly what the dark has turned it into, a blame game while all the other crap is happening. Where's the worldwide earthquake?
That should make them think for a day or two...or three, before they go back to trying to figure out how to pay their bills, or not get killed, or raped, or die of starvation and/or exposure...more unemployed, more homeless, more this, more that...there are pockets of light and struggling to love and pulses of hope but little action. Call on YOU? For what? to save the world? Too many blame You for the shape it's in now. You want them to take responsibility? Take action? Win? That takes a level of knowledge and being that is sorely lacking...Too many breathe in the reality that such action only leads to destruction, usually theirs...At what point will they turn to you? Who knows? If you're relying on mass thought in the matter, more believe in 2012 than what comes from AH.
Dude, there's co-creation and there's creating as one will. What many are co-creating here is a far cry from what You hope to create. If Divine Will does not stand supreme and absolute in the manifestation of what is to come, the outcome of it, if what You say You bring as the outcome is just a possibility and not a fact, then what the hell? If there is to be harvest, then harvest. The season has gone on too long and crops are withering while you wait for others to ripen.
There is a deadline but it is fluid...this thing could last another fifty years if need be, a hundred, a thousand and so be it if it is Your Will to do so. But that's the point. Your Will. You could just as easily will that it be now. It's your board, your game. You ask the pieces if they will move where You Will them to be and call it co-creation but there is only one will. Only One Will exists in all of creation and so what does it matter when all roads lead back to Source? All will make it at some point. To do it now is great, later? Okay, fine. Whatever...But we are just experiencing The One as The One experiencing ALL THAT IS. We are all God experiencing in us ourselves in God...God is All are We are One are We are All is God...I get it.
Esu: you get it?
K: yes, i get it. It doesn't matter how this thing plays out and how long it takes. All that matters is that we live this experience to the fullest and make whatever efforts we think need to be made to get ahead and progress and evolve by whatever means and beliefs and feelings and thoughts we may have about it, our actions will prove our intentions and reveal what we are in this experience as a group and as individuals and we will all be given our just rewards for all of this when the time comes, if ever. It doesn't matter what we want, it's what we do because of what we want that counts. We establish and hold to our contracts and play our parts and that's it.
Whatever we are co-creating was established long ago and now we are just playing it out. All the possibilities and choices and causes and effects, that's what we do, we experience it for God that God may experience it through us that we may experience God in and around ourselves. Eventually we will find unity, oneness. We shall see each other as each other and be each other in light and love...Great! In the meantime, while we grow into it, this is the shit that we have to go through. So be it. I'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. We'll all figure it out eventually.
Those that know enough to align with and work with, within and in unity with Divine Will, giving their wills to Divine Will, will graduate, continue, go further and i am under the impression that their blessings, their strength of manifestation will increase in the here and now...but that could just be wishful thinking on my part...but i have seen it for myself and prefer to live and love in that than in anything else....After such is realized, what is there to say? We live the one life. All Glory to The One and to The One, All Glory!
You got an answer for that?
CM: Yes, yes I do.
S333: As do I
K: sigh...fine...have at ye!
{ at this point it was decided to take a break and they would decide how they were going to approach this and i was told that we would all meet up the next day/night to continue. Many conversations have been ongoing in the interim and i have been back online again after losing my connection for about a week...weird circumstances...anyway...here is where we all sit down again to continue this discussion in formal fashion...}
CM: You've read the posts by Jess, Don and Eve?
K: [lolal = laughing out loud a little] You seem to be catching a bit of flak right about now. Too much expectation has led to too much disappointment. We have lost good people simply because of impatience over the years and now You seem to be wanting everyone to hang on and hold the fort and not be doubting at this point = intolerable= i think was the gist of it, in so many words. I'm not sure that we have the faith in ourselves that You have in us. Absolute clarity would be nice, but hardly obtainable, at this point. There's simply too much to consider that You have to deal with that we don't and from our perspective...things have not been as stated.
S333: How so?
K: stock market fell to, what? 6900? Nothing happened. Jupiter = still waiting. Stasis = still waiting. Let it rip = still waiting. World quake...waiting..........Yes, we are still here, growing, evolving, but things still get worse. Like soldiers on a fifty mile run with two-ton packs, we keep going on nothing but will and some of us think that this thing has become a 55 mile run and no one has bothered to tell us and if it turns into a 60 mile run some will fall out and be lost to the wayside and some might decide to attack the drill sergeant....so You might want do something about that before it happens...y'know what I'm sayin'?
S333: this is not what we talked about.
K: I wanted something new.
Esu: So you think that we are asking too much of you?
K: remains to be seen. The ones left standing will get all the marbles. Here's the question I have to ask myself and you: Is it that you want the greatest quantity or do you want the greatest quantity of quality? Are you more concerned with how many and just want as many as possible or do you want to get the ones that endured through all of this bullshit, still standing and with strength left to spare? What are the levels of awareness that are acceptable to you in deciding when ‘when' is when? You already stated that the line was drawn between service to self as opposed to service to others. You left the mark at 51% STO personalities as having earned the right to stay and build the new world. Do all of these people need to be aware or just open hearted and somewhat selfless? Do all these people need to be aware and aware of what? Oneness? The Law of One? Their true nature, the manipulation, abuse and bullshit that has been going on for the last few years? Hundreds of years, thousands?
What is this awareness that you are looking for? At what point will things be straight enough for You to say "Okay, NOW! And push the freakin/ button or let it rip or fill the skies with craft or clear out the thugs in public or make announcements or bring out Jupiter or implement stasis or even let loose the prosperity programs with the caretaker regimes. I mean, Sheldon writes good stuff. It sounds so wonderful. Six billion people in inner earth all made whole and happy...yeh...the Sirians don't seems to know that you are there and seem to have their own thing going. The point is, how the hell are we supposed to co=create if there isn't a single page to be on to will and intend on. It's stupid!
CM: Let me stop you right there. The Sirians know very well about Me and Sheldon can accept only so much. (Candace: as can others in this game we play.) His communications serve a real and necessary purpose to open peoples minds to possibilities beyond their own lives as it has been presented to them by their cabal handlers. There is no room in Agartha or anywhere in inner earth for 6 billion new people and that should go without saying. Other than the numbers, it is a valid program and training of those that stay behind will be a necessity.
We will not just leave you here to fend for yourselves. You know that. As to the remainder of your statements and questions. I do not turn down loving, helpful, selfless people, sleeping, aware or otherwise. The actions of any individual show their willingness and intent to do or not do the right thing according to Divine Law and Will. The fact that a person has no real clue to anything beyond their own nose does not take away from the fact that they still live by the famous golden rule and such actions, as they are given, are rewarded for their own sakes. Many are those that are aware and awake and still promote dissention to Divine Will, separation and discord, selfishness and abuse for their own sakes. These will also find the rewards which are their just due.
K: So i figure that You have a way to determine when You have reached an optimal point of population? Like a plateau of sorts? You could always climb higher but have to weigh the risks of losing however many to falling from even steeper climbs than already experienced. Isn't that how it goes?
Esu: In a way, yes. You have to understand that everything that has happened so far has been to take the entire population as well as the planet on an upwards journey of sorts. Consider that you are climbing a mountain. And Source is leading the way. For all intents and purposes, Source is already there at the top, waiting and you actually must rely on Christ Michael to lead the way. In the beginning it is a decent pace, slow but steady, and few fall to the wayside. But as the climb gets higher and steeper more and more begin to fall or just give up and are left to the way side. At a certain point we reach areas of somewhat level ground, plateaus, where we can gather the population and access what is what, try to explain what is going on and what is expected and so forth.
We then start anew onto the next plateau where we see where we are and what can be expected if we climb even further. The goal is to reach the top but we can hardly expect everyone to make it. We have to be able to access how many are left at each plateau and how many of those will be able to journey even further and at each plateau. There are those that decide that they can go no further while others want to sally forth and some are just willing to go along to see where it all leads. Eventually we reach a point where it has to be determined who will make the final trek to the summit. There are those that think that they can make it but we know better, they simply wouldn't be able to make it without some assistance and that assistance would have to come from those that have proven themselves to be the best climbers.
Now if the best climbers are too tired to help or starting to fail, what are we to do? Already so many have been left behind and we prefer to get as many to the top as possible. Are we to tell those that are struggling to keep up that this is the end of their journey? Shall we only take those very few that we know can continue with ease? What shall those in the middle do then? You are all expected to pull together to help and teach those that are lacking in certain areas to complete the journey. Yes, you are tired. We are all tired. But we are taking everyone that wants to go and that means that this has to be a group effort.
All of these communications and channelings are helping others to climb. Your hard work and faith, as a group and groups of groups, are helping others to find their footing. It matters little if some believe that, at the top, they will find this, or that, or the other, or nothing. The journey must be made by as many as possible. We are on such a plateau right now and decisions have to be made once again. Your new world awaits, but it is not going to come to you, you must climb to it. While the many that have fallen and have been left to the wayside burn fires around the mountain and dance and revel and fight and clamor for reasons they know not why = you must climb on, if that is what you desire, what you intend, what you will.
K: So.....at what point do we get there and what will we find? Whose version of this is the truth? Stasis, no stasis? Magical ascension or hard work? Fine, we're climbing, but You laid out specific things that have yet to happen. Are those things still expected to happen and if not, what's what in all this?
Big M: Does it matter? You will be in the same place regardless. If we told you that we could do it without stasis, would you care? You agree that there are things that you are unaware of that are just as important if not more important? This is not just about you. This is just a part of everything that is happening in Nebadon and, hence, Orvonton.
K: I am well aware of knowns and known unknowns and unknown unknowns. But enough is enough. If you want all of these people to help each other that last hurdle [ and i pray to Source and Aton that this is actually the last hurdle..] (..*%&^$##^%(*)(%^*$)(^%^tiny_mce_markeramp;#%*) what do we have to do to get to the point where we can get one thing, look at one thing, be told one thing, agree on one thing and actually have that one thing happen? A landmark, a benchmark, something! I've said this before. There is going to have to be a certain point of unity and being on the same word of the same sentence of the same paragraph of the same page in order to get done what you want done the way you want it done. Somebody is going to have to figure out a way to get all these lightworking people and groups that are actually honest and sincere in their desire, intent and will to serve the One Will, to see one thing together and agree that they all agree with it because it is self evident and on such common ground we can better help raise each other up to that summit.
But what you've got right now is a situation that has every chance of blowing up in all of our faces simply because without evident proof of one thing to agree upon, too many will simply fall over the side and take others with them. Which doesn't have to be if you want as many of the qualified as possible. If you're still culling, fine, but say so and let people know where what is what so that they can make adjustments...wait...sorry...you don't do that, do you?....right....no proof of anything...all must make their own choice...by the law of one....nevermind...sigh. (Kibo, even if they do a big "one thing" of some sort, there is still going to be a huge variance in interpretation of that "one event." Candace )
Esu: you sound so frustrated. We're getting there. This thing is happening and yes, there is still a deadline...and no, I can't tell you when that is...
K: I swear to God, if you say ‘soon'...
CM: LOL......We are never going to tell you ‘soon' ever again. The question I have to ask, and I ask this of all of you, is: Are you with Me?
K: What? Aren't we married, too? I love my wife. I love You, too. I'm with You, but You'll forgive me if I'm just pissed off about the whole thing right now. I assume You have the gulf thing covered in terms of getting Gaia all pristine again when the time comes. Eve is right in stating that you have to take care of the planet first so those that stay are the ones that are allowed to stay. But that still begs the question of just when and how many until You reach optimum conditions and can such a point ever be reached. I assume, under the circumstances that You are experiencing a constant ebb and flow in all of this that makes it hard to accurately judge since it changes with every moment...
S333: Things are actually looking up in that respect. As the dark try harder to stay in control they fail harder. I think you refer to it as pissing into the wind. More are waking up
CM: But it remains to be seen how many of those that are waking up, as well as those already awake, are willing to live by Divine Law and Divine Will. They must be given every opportunity to prove themselves one way or the other.
K: That could take a lot of time, couldn't it?
Big M: Not as much as you think, no. In such situations as this, where so much is on the line for so many, there is...how shall I say?....Their initial reaction(s) cause them to determine for themselves certain intents that quickly create actions of will that place them on easily determined paths that define their place in the final outcome. It is not their fate, as you see it. It is simply the result of the choices that they have made for themselves in how to react to their new awareness...either positively or negatively, create or destroy, help or harm, ‘me' or ‘we', ‘them' or ‘all of us'. Even the decision to place blame on others besides yourself is a determining factor when in the oneness of greater reality we are, indeed, all responsible for each other. You see how that works.
K: So, this is what harvest is all about. What happened to just separating the wheat from the tares? That seemed so simple to do.
Esu: [chuckling] Tares look like wheat, I think the story goes, so you really have to make sure you're not throwing out a perfectly good wheat plant. Chaff is another story and weeds are seldom, if ever mentioned. Diseased plants, eaten, too dry, ruined, strong and healthy, exceptional...it does all take some time to sort out. We can't just pull it all up and sort it out in a pile somewhere else...well, We could, but that scenario is more akin to just flipping the planet and waiting for it to become habitable again while we send everyone out to somewhere else.....We decided not to do that here, remember?
K: I remember. Still, something is going to have to give and quickly. It can't keep going like this. We are being told to prepare but we are always being told to prepare and have been for years. At some point there is going to have to be something big and either natural or completely cosmic/alien or obviously and undeniably divine in nature to happen. If you're not willing to end it now, then let there be something that will speed up the remainder of the process? Now? Now now?
S333: Always looking for signs and wonders, are we?
K: I like to think of it as...support....and i wouldn't worry about that infringement upon freewill thing so much as i would be concerned about how best to make up for the gross violations of our freewill that have already been perpetrated upon us by by these dark idiots that never could figure out that they could have still been rich and powerful in a free and just and prosperous world and that control through domination is such a hassle, no down time, no relaxing....like i said...people that want all that are sick puppies and the sooner we put the hard core ones that like to say fuck you to Your face to sleep, the better.......but that's me....I'm with You. You're the Boss, no problems there. But whatever you're doing, whatever you're waiting on, it's taking too damn long for us sillies on the ground trying to tough it out and we could use something to hold onto because we don't think we're sillies but it feels like that sometimes...you know..while people laugh at us and shit...
Big M: So it's an ego problem for you.
K: Maybe...i hate to think so, but there it is. It would be a helluvalot easier to have something happen and have those very same people come running to me to ask ‘ what the fuck?' and maybe they'll really want to know this time when i try to explain it to them...or Candace or Jess or Eve or Don or Hazel or Blossom or any of the lightworkers that are trying so hard to deliver the truth...even Bellringer or Sheldon or Story, for what he's worth, or anybody that will get them to stand eyes wide open in realization that we're considered to be slaves by a group of people that are no better than we are and we're a breath away from being the complete set of property, slave chattel, meat with eyes, that they are already convinced we are and all they have to do is convince us that they're right, so go back to sleep and let the matrix rock you away and be the food they say you were meant to be...it sucks but it's already programmed in and climbing is very slow and if it's going to take another few years, then let me know now.
CM: and if that were the case, what would you do?
K: The same thing I'm doing now! But at least I'd know! That's pretty much how I'm feeling about it all right now anyway. Always this close to it an then like a dream it moves back while i move towards it. I've resigned myself to the fact that i just have to keep going and do the best i can while I wait for whatever for however long. I pray I live long enough to get there. I'm just here for the experience. I want only to help and have food and shelter while i do that. But it's all just experience in the end. I chose to experience this and just have to deal with that as best i can. I signed that contract. Whatever it takes, I'm with You. But I strongly suggest that You get on with it . Either that or support your troops on the ground, whoever they may be. Make sure we all have what we need to make it through this crap. Whatever that may be for any of us, that should be a given and not have to be asked for or demanded. Take care of your own, Boss and let them know for sure that they are Your own. All are Yours, but you've got people really working their butts off for You in the face of all opposition and bad circumstances. Don't leave them hanging in the breeze.
Esu: Whether they agree with you or not?
K: You know your own and what they do and often they do not agree with each other but they are still your own. Take care of them and help them to get on the same page. You will see better results, I assure You. But it has to come from YOU. Now, I'm with YOU, I promise and swear....YOU are with me, right? You have to be with all who are with you...The ultimate leader, who else could do that but You and Source? Talk about really being with the troops! So...YOU'RE with ME, Right? We're in this together and You're the Boss and we help and listen to each other, right?
CM: You do recognize that My Will, as well as the Will of SOURCE, is absolute in this? My Will be Done and all that?
K: Not a problem for me, You'll have to ask the others for themselves..But even with that..DO NOT LEAVE OUR BUTTS HANGING IN THE WIND. We all have crap to deal with on top of this thing, or underneath it, but we still have to deal with all of this NOW. You have said: Be with Me as I AM with You. We say the same to You, well, I AM saying it. I can't do crap without You and want to live in Divine Will...so yeah, You have to help me with that while You help me deal with the rest of this while I help you deal with all of this and do my best to do Your Will and do my job which is that anyway...You're good with that, right?
CM: I AM great with that. Are we all good with that?
Esu: Works for me.
S333: Agreed.
Big M: Fine by me. But I ask that you concentrate more on the great experience of life in The One as more of an actual learning experience and strengthening the manifestation of your actions of will and intent. Your greater focus on the process between the causes, effects and final outcomes of your created acts of will, will help you to better understand the relationship between these small acts of yours and the larger actions of the divine beings that you will also be at some point in your ascending evolution.
K: Will do, Big M...Look, it's been two nights and tonight has been going on for hours and i'm about whooped. Do you want to continue later next night or call it a day on this one or what? I don't know what else to say or ask other than scream ‘get it done! Get it done!' but that's on me and the rest of us, too........sooooooowhattayawannado?
CM: we'll call it a day on this. But look, you people are closer than you think to the fulfilling, what you call the end, to all this. Great efforts are being made all over and it is all actually having a huge effect and I, for one, do not want there to be any more room for doubt and consider it intolerable at this point, even if deemed understandable from your viewpoint, for you to give up at this stage of the game is to fall out right before the goal line, in our eyes. We have invested heavily in you all but more so have you invested in yourselves and each other. We can try to show you all the common ground that you share together but it will mean nothing if you cannot even try to see it for yourselves. If you all agree on ascension, but not how to get there, then at least share with those that seek answers what you know to be true for all. Ascension is here and we are in the process of it as we speak.
It is needed for all to live in love and light. Love one another and support one another and see each other as each other. Separation has been the key to your enslavement. There is freedom in unity and only in unity can you stand together and take back your freedom and establish justice based on peace, equality and respect as an aspect of love for one another. Fear, hatred, intolerance and violence will be the death of you if you let it. Ignorance locks the chains of your slavery. Those that desire to live as free will, intelligent, ascending sons and daughters of The Living I AM, will harken to and heed your words. They will be duly noted.
I AM CHRIST MICHAEL ATON Sovereign of Nebadon in Orvonton and I and My band of brothers and sisters beseech you all to stand in unity with us in this greatest of endeavors. To all who read and hear these words WE call you to stand with us in love and light and to all who answer this call affirmatively, I give my blessing and place My seal and My embrace on all who stand to serve The Will of SOURCE in All things for the time has come when all things shall be revealed and the long wait of ye little ones shall be rewarded.
K: thanks Boss..sounds great...make sure you back that up. Love you dearly. Thank you all and love you too..i'm outta here.........
Candace: Well I have some personal chats with Papa (First Source) now and then, and I would suggest you all just relax and live, and think, and prepare and....... because Papa is quite committed. The pressures are huge now for I guess a couple weeks or so. Body is telling me all sorts of stuff, wish I was better at "translating" what it is saying. And how many people do drop out just before their goal manifests because of impatience? LOTS on this world. I probably have done it myself, but in most of those cases, I really didn't want the particular goal post after I understood it better. This goal post I WANT. How about each of you? A portion of this testing, is to see who is patience and dedicated enough to stay standing. Will it include you?
And that said, this Gulf thing is sad, but HUGE and hopefully will wake some folks up at some point. Oil has spread over most of the gulf, down to the Yucatan now. I hope to God a reasonable number of folks realize the problems with oil SOON. The floor of the gulf is BAD, heaving up and down, and there really is huge risk of that methane blowout. And all that comes with it. There is a "unknown" but known by high placed government geologists, place south of Louisiana, a circular plate. This puppy is moving and there is going to be a "methane" blowout of huge proportions, and this will destabilize the New Madrid fault. There will be a tsunami with the blowout as the methane displaces the water and there will be millions dead from the fumes depending on the winds. We are talking major issues here with multiple quakes involved.
California in several areas continues to destabilize, and since the Easter quake, things are getting worse for Southern California. USGS is constantly removing quakes west of the Elsinore fault, including 2 almost 4's in Santa Ana yesterday. That whole area all to the way the coast would be peppered with small quakes on the current map since the 5.4 there lamost a week ago now. Then there is a volcano erupting underwater in the area east of the Tonga trench. There is plenty of doom building up. American is going to experience some substantial destruction.
Do not pay any attention to the stories of new devices set off by a small nuclear bombs to fix the "leak". These will not be allowed and would further make thinks worse. The various submarines from various nations are exiting the gulf now, that have been there studying the large mess. It is correct, in terms of the stories there is a major 100 mile long gash some distance from the "leaking well".
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