Is Soul A Geon?

I saw someone online raise some realy intriguing scientific theory of a soul. A soul is simply a geon. As I will elaborate below, a geon is a self sustaining gravitantional wave that is caused by the wiggling of spacetime itself. The approach is similar in spirit to my approach when I set forth to explain the light body as a vacuume polarization it the matter-antimatter potential.THE 21 ST CENTUARY APPROACHI beleive that the othordox approach to the question of afterlife have thoroughly failed to answer the question. At the heart of the problem is its insistance that we should not make a rational theory of an afterlife or a soul while at the same time seeking for a prove of one! This is very problematic as the soul proponent will be forced to offer only 'beyond understanding' non answer to all sound objections raised by the skeptics.There are a couple of things that a good scientific theory of a soul should explain. The two most important ones are:a)Why it is hard if not impossible to detect oneb)How nevertheless it should interact with matter in our bodies.The geon idea seems to explain 'a' so well. 'b' is a bit tricky and the lack of any explanation on the part of proponents is one big reason why many people reject the soul completely. Simply saying that 'it is beyond rational mind' is as stupid as claiming that the earth is flat and then saying that it is beyond our minds!GEONFrom Einstein's theory of general relativity, everything that has energy has mass. Waves has energy therefore they have mass and therefore they can gravitate. A physicist term Wheeler set forth to attempt to explain the origin of matter from pure geometry!! So in this model, we begine by empty space together with pulses in it termed gravitantional waves. It is these pulses that will attract each other due to their energy not matter, at least not particles that exist in isolation.So as long as there is energy in spacetime, the energy will gravitate together and as it get more and more dense, it creates what appears to us as matter! Now, our consciousness is said to come about when several neurones fire synchronously. This creates a wave in spacetime which henceforth bind itself gravitantionaly in 'empty space'. Btw the question of what comes first, the soul or the brain is irrelevant to the question of AFTERlife, which is the main issue the soul hypothesis addresses. To me, theories positing a body that scalfholds for the sould formation makes the most perfect sense.Energy In Space Time Energy In Space Time. EINSTEIN
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  • And I want this discussion to remain mainly about the METAPHYSICAL idea of soul and not EPISTEMOLOGY. These are two vastly different topics. Epistemology debate will obscure the issue of GEON. Whether or not geon is a good model is what I wanna chat about.
  • And why the use of 'we CAN'T understand' instead of the proper 'we DON'T understand'???

    'We can't' is too FINAL a statement. Only someone who understands us in and out can say if there is anything we can't understand. A sort of GOD. To claim that there is anything we can't understand is by default to claim that we already fully understand our own brains of which we don't yet. Infact neuroscience is in its infacy and the philosophy of mind is stuck in the womb!
  • One can form all sorts of nonsensical theories and blame it on our lack of understanding. That is what I am trying to discourage. One can tell you that God is going to burn you forever. When you ask but how a loving God can do that, he says Alas! Can a mortal man like you understand God?

    But who realy told you that? Who realy told you that you are on a 'lower level'? This is just a beleif indoctrinated to us by religions. We cannot as of yet claim that we are on a lower level without having understood the 'higher level'. So the claim that there is a higher level beyond which we can never understand is false. How did we know of it in the first place?
  • Maths is not the same thing as understanding as maths is about DESCRIBING and not EXPLAINING. We don't fully understand gravity, electromagnetism etc yet. The thing I am trying to say is that one should not use a lack of understanding to make a point.

    There isn't anything comfortable about lacking understanding. Neither do I understand how God can burn me in hell, how I can perish etc. In the dark of a lack of understanding isn't there a stock of good things.
  • Understanding is always expanding as we move forward...the thing is that we can´t really understand things at a higher level than we are...we can have all the math on it,,,but understanding is something different..

  • We should be constantly aiming at those 'beyond the reach'. When we cross the horizon, a new horizon appears. This is far more fan than sitting and saying; 'soul is beyond understanding'. Helo, understanding is dynamic and flexible.
  • Yes, we will never comprehend the entire universe or reality. But our understanding can and should keep expanding.
  • souls are 6D...must be things beyond souls as well.....interesting universe..

  • So alongside flat earth hypotheses and tortoise models of gravity, the issue of debating on whether or not souls exist is doomed to fade into the dustpins of history! It will be replaced by attempts to create souls!!!
  • But the truely curious fact about wave/matter duality is that it allows us to create!! As we think, we form waves in electromagnetic realms. It is just a matter of forming sufficiently high frequency waves in our brains!! Specificaly, if our wavelength is below compton wavelength, it can create electrons. This is a science fact, not a wishfull thought! It is only that these ideas are still very new and strange to many people that not many can try these!
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